“email is inherently insecure, email can never be secure, it leaks a LOT of metadata and only the body is encrypted, subject can NOT be encrypted, you can NOT build a secure system on top of email”

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    it is all about the sassy retro style and base64 MIME body

    more seriously: Signal is centralized and based on phone numbers, and as said by Signal themselves: “Privacy is Priceless, but Signal is Expensive” https://signal.org/blog/signal-is-expensive/ while email infra is WAY more economic and decentralized

    SimpleX maybe but I it is not powerful/flexible nor as solid/mature as email server infra

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      I see, thank you. I think delta is audited too so it’s pretty solid.

      Though, if you advertised delta/arcane directly instead of a meme, people might not have been so angry haha. You’re free to make a post about them but please do cite the audit :)

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        I didn’t want to advice/promote DeltaChat/ArcaneChat, they are not the only possible way of using email securely, just came here with the meme as a way of leaving out a rant because I have seen a lot of people talking like that and it is by now an urban legend people just repeat like parrots and pointing to articles that basically are misleading. Had a recent discussion about that in the Privacy Guides forum and just came here with the meme to shake the frustration away ;-)

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          Yeah i checked that thread, that user that kept bickering seemed like an asshole, sorry. I think delta/arcane is pretty novel and noble.

          Standard OpenPGP e-mail encryption protects message contents, but not message headers such as From, To and Subject fields. To protect Subject header Delta Chat and other email clients such as Thunderbird and K-9 Mail replace Subject with “…” or “Encrypted Message” and place real Subject into the encrypted part of an e-mail message

          Clearly they didn’t even read the audit 🤦‍♂️ Thanks for your good work, btw :D