They were bought by IBM a few years back, but even aside from that they’re a corporation and they care about making money above all else.

It looks like Red Hat is doing its damnedest to consolidate as much power for themselves within the Linux ecosystem.

I don’t think the incessant Fedora shilling is unrelated.

It seems like there isn’t much criticism of the company or their tactics, and I’m curious if any of you think that should change.

  • LeFantome@programming.dev
    3·
    5 hours ago

    Does your distro use systemd? wayland? gnome? glibc? gcc? flatpak? If so, Red Hat has a lot of influence on the evolution of your distro.

    Shills or no shills, using Debian does not reduce your reliance on Red Hat software all that much. Well, stuff like the above at least. Debian ships a lot more software than RHEL does.

    With Leap 16, SUSE are dumping YaST (their signature software) for Cockpit (largest contributor is Red Hat) and moving to Wayland exclusively (a Red Hat project) and Pipewire (same). I mean, these are objectively good moves but they also make SUSE more like RHEL. So jumping to SUSE is not exactly jumping off the Red Hat train.

    I would say the same about Arch but it is certainly possible to run a less Red Hat centric stack on Arch (though you are probably using glibc and GCC on Arch for sure and there is of course the problem that a significant percentage of the Linux kernel is Red Hat code).

    Anyway, I have no intention of shilling. I am not here to make you like Red Hat. However, I also think not being idiotic means acknowledging facts.

    • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee
      2·
      4 hours ago

      Shills or no shills, using Debian does not reduce your reliance on Red Hat software all that much

      Maybe, but if, based on one loud mouth in a Lemmy thread I began a whole intensive programme of de-redhatting my life, that would be a bit dumb ;-)

      But veering a little more away from using Redhat or Fedora, seems a proportionate response to finally feeling there really is bad faith shilling and genuine red flags. My inflammatory language was perhaps just an emotional expression of that.

      Does your distro use systemd? … If so, Red Hat has a lot of influence on the evolution of your distro

      And that was part of the controversy, wasn’t it? And part of why, if vague memory serves, Debian resisted it at first. Perhaps your comment vindicates them!

      I also think not being idiotic means acknowledging facts.

      Sounds like a pretty sensible policy :) Thanks