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I’ve heard of Zorin before. It’s been around for a while, but last I heard anything was years ago. There’s not been much hype or anything since.

You’re citing from a document criticizing the HLG. These are sources for that criticism.

These are not members of the HLG itself.

No, I was referring to the HLG that helped draft this legislation. We know who in the EU sent out the invitations, but requests to find out who was in the grouo were denied.

https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/networks/high-level-group-hlg-access-data-effective-law-enforcement_en

This is still (afaik) not public information.

That scrotum is just the current driver, but they’re probably referring to some unnamed lobbying group that’s been pushing for this for years. I’m not sure the identity of that group was ever revealed.

Counterpoint: If there’s anyone who doesn’t promote Windows and actively dislikes it, it’s Windows users.

Right I get what you mean now. “File History” =/= “Previous Versions”. But “Previous Versions” has been entirely replaced since Win8, so not entirely relevant.

It’s also completely unrelated to file deletions, because the VSS system both System Restore and Previous Versions use worked on the block-level, and as you already pointed out blocks aren’t written to when a file is deleted, it either gets copied over to the recycle bin or just marked as deleted, but neither affect the block contents (VSS works on a CoW principle, blocks are backed up only if written to, but live performance is basically unaffected by this unless you’re doing huge loads like big DB modifications or something.

What? File History is a completely different system. System Restore makes occasional restoration points and is enabled by default, File History needs to be set up to use it. It’s disabled by default and Microsoft seems to be actively trying to hide it (try finding it in the Win11 settings screen; you won’t find it there) so people use OneDrive to back their stuff up instead.

Sure, but neither is relevant to the recycle bin.

I take it you don’t filesystem much do you?

I take it you don’t Windows much?

Windows moves the file from its current folder to the hidden system folder C:\$Recycle.Bin\. That involves copying file metadata, updating NTFS records, and possibly moving the file across volumes (which becomes a full file copy+delete).

Large files or folders with many entries take longer because NTFS has to record each move, update security descriptors, and maintain the Recycle Bin’s index.

If the file is on another drive than the C-drive, the system literally copies it into that drive’s recycle bin folder, then deletes the original.

Nobody said Windows did this stuff efficiently.

I’m practically certain that what’s slowing Windows down when sending something to the Recycle Bin is the background processing and data compression being performed by System Restore.

Windows doesn’t do any recycle bin data compression. And System Restore is a completely separate, unrelated system. So no it doesn’t do any of that.

Not on Windows, it actually moves your files to a special directory.

Shift-Del to delete files is usually much faster, though obviously this skips the recycle bin.

Technically the libs did do something this election.

Last time they opened the door to a possible collaboration with the PVV. This in turn caused a lot of (far-)right wing voters to flock to the PVV. This time they joined in ruling out any collaboration with the PVV. 99 out of 150 seats in the Dutch parliament now refuse to work with Wilders. This turned out to be their saving grace too, because a lot of those former PVV voters now went for the liberal right-wing VVD, as they were told it was the “only way to prevent a left-wing cabinet”.

So in effect they basically undid their fuckup from last time.

Yeah but that’s precisely the thing isn’t it: you need to know Winboat, Gnome Boxes, VMs etc… exist, you need to know how to configure it and how to use it.

I’ve installed Bazzite a while ago for my sister after my old gaming PC didn’t support W11 which I donated to her. Took 2 reinstalls because apparently it’s very easy to mess with hard drive mounting in a way that bricks the OS into an unrecoverable boot loop. Then, I needed to get her games working through Lutris, which did eventually work but updating those games then became an issue. I know how to do it, but she still has difficulty getting the steps right. Had I left it to do it herself, she would’ve been far too intimidated to even get started properly (and she’s above-average when it comes to computers). And of course 90% of computer work happens in the browser, but people are unlikely to switch if that remaining 10% doesn’t also just work out of the box.

Arguably this all isn’t Linux’ fault, but that doesn’t magic the issues away. Windows is just a lot more familiar and harder to brick beyond repair. Of course it’s less powerful and more bloated, but managing to get a Linux install to that point is often still quite hard for many people. And the average person has very little patience to make something work.

I know people like to joke this, but there’s plenty of “I use distro X because it works well with Nvidia gpus”, “I had to use XYZ to make the drivers for my steering wheel work” and “I use software XYZ which doesn’t quite work (fast enough) through Wine/Proton”.

Windows entire shtick is that due to its market dominance, companies will make sure their product works with Windows, hence it’s a very plug-and-play OS.

Sure, Windows does shit users don’t always want or like. But it doesn’t generally outright break things these days. And if it does, the instructions online on how to fix it are generally a bit easier to follow than those for Linux.

Linux being a bit harder to set up isn’t really Linux’ fault. And these days the chance that your distro outright works without tweaks is fairly high. But it’s not at the same level as Windows is yet.

I did feel like Ousterhout kind of undermined his own “comments go a long way in explaining code in longer functions” argument when his example code featured some incorrect comments, which is exactly what Martin warned about.

Honestly neither of them were really wrong anywhere, they just have a different approach. Sometimes I find Martins code split into too many functions, but halfway through there’s an example where Martins code is imo definitely clearer than Ousterhouts.

Both of their experience is valuable and is best shared, but not taken as gospel I think.

It’s literally happened to every single version of Windows, 10 and below.

This has literally happened repeatedly in the past. Just last year an exploit came to light affecting Windows XP that was so bad Microsoft had to release another security patch for it. WannaCry and NotPetya malwares used similarly severe exploits in 2017.

Well, unless some exploit is discovered that doesn’t require user interaction. Then merely being connected puts your device at risk.

And given historical precedent, it’s going to be a matter of time until one is discovered.

I think you got that mixed up, the VSCode icon is in the Soydev square.

That sounds boneheaded. Comments are a feature for a good reason after all.