Just the real world actually

No if you know they’re gonna have to check, then you’ve worked for your cousin Randy at his placeofbusiness doing menialchore related to the industry.

You can confirm this by calling Mr Randolphius McGillecuddy, Esq.

What gap?

I’ve not been unemployed, I’ve been under a strict NDA for a very private employer. No, I’m not allowed their share their contact information. Sorry.

“But you’re not considering how valuable this experience will be!”

Perhaps originally wanted someone with hair, but Patrick Stewart was just the best, and he was better without the hairpiece.

So you are saying that because cars are designed by engineers, you don’t need to check that the brakes work, because engineering is magic and you trust it.

Are you talking about manual or digital calculators?

What happens when you divide by zero on a mechanical calculator?

Now unless you’re using a machine in which you can clearly see every single part of it, such as an abacus, you can’t be 100% sure it’s actually working correctly. You may reliably assume that of such a base level of technology as calculators, and of calculator software on your PC/phone, and you may also somewhat reliably trust that a car is in working order.

However, in my country the law actually does mention that you’re required to check that all lights, indicators, and safety equipment functions before going out on the road, but if everyone actually did that everywhere in the world, the whole gimmick of cutting brake lines wouldn’t exist.

Now is AI way more unreliable, and actually hallucinates things? Yes. But were search engines pretty much equally unreliable in the early days of the world wide web? Also yes. That’s why you still hear people sneering “oh, did you Google that?”. Yes, obviously I used a search engine to search for information, but I also known how to verify the sources of any information I find with it.

The modern version is LLM, a few years back it was “oh did you read that on Wikipedia” and before that is was general derision at all search engines.

As if someone actually fucking took the time to walk to a library anymore to spend an hour looking at books which might talk about the subject you have a question about and might be several decades old and have out of date information.

I can’t even take the rest of your bullshit seriously if you honestly think what you said has any merit.

The “tldr” or “do your own research” of the pseudointellectual. I’m confident you’re perfectly capable of understanding what I said. You just don’t want to answer because it’d show your logic sucks and you can’t form your own opinions.

no, I don’t check the math that a calculator does. know why?

But unless your using an actual abacus, the person who built your calculator, or more likely programmed the OS you’re running a calculator software on, you’re still using a product made by a fallible person and which could have made a mistake.

Problem with AI is that it can’t even do math properly!

Then neither can basic calculators. Or your trying to say that sometimes the input isn’t clear enough for the AI to get the corrected calculation it could do correctly. Ie the interface is still unreliable.

But at some point, it will be reliable enough. And it’s already reliable enough for cooking. It can still make mistakes, but if you understand the basics, you’ll realise if there’s some massive hallucination.

it is similar, know why? it’s fucking engineering, which is an entire branch of math!

Ah, so the minimum wage people actually putting the cars together (there’s one factory I know not far from me which every single one of my immigrant friends has been at for a week or two) are infallible, because engineering is — at its core — based on math?

You know you seem just as ridiculous as the guy you were arguing, who’s claiming LLM’s will cure cancer.

“Engineering is math and math is math thus all engineered products and all engineered software is perfect and infallible … except for anything AI, WHICH IS TO BE BURNED AS HERECY.”

your brain has gone soft. make some better arguments next time and I’ll take you seriously.

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btw, this has “Facebook essential oils” group written all over it. I hope to god you seek the medical help you need from a medical professional that has decades of training and not some LLM garbage that’s been forcefed “grey’s anatomy” and MLP fanfic.

You misunderstand. It’s not because the AI is better at medicine. It’s because it’s a tool which has got access to medical information, and the doctors I used were public doctors who dismissed me. Something again which you somehow think of as impossible, as your “brain has gone soft” and suffers from the just world fallacy.

With the aid of LLM’s, I could actually input very medical questions, which the doctors would’ve probably known how to answer, had they actually listened to what I was saying. You’re completely ignoring arrogance, bureaucracy, racism, sexism and agism.

If you want, I’ll eat wheat right now and show you how I’ll start having a high blood pressure, high HR, extremely anxiety and shitting orange floaty poop. Despite that, I have a doctors statement saying the test for celiacs is negative. We took the antigen test after I asked the doctor whether the antigen test actually requires being exposed in case of a false negative, as I was already avoiding gluten since I know to be allergic to it. She said “no it doesn’t”. After the test came back negative, she messaged me, indirectly admitting she had made a mistake. Now I’ve a complaint going on about her but these take literally years to process.

Don’t know who that was directed to, couldn’t be me. I run my own models among other things

Ofc it was directed at you. You’re a mindless softbrain who just has to be in the “anti-AI” bandwagon, because you’re not capable of forming your own opinions, so you always just trail others and shout out what you think is the most successful thing you’ve heard. And you still use them, despite taking a stance like that in public. It’s pathetic, really. I hope you grow out of it.

To believe you can live in a world where software is infallible is just foolish and naive.

Aye, sure, but you don’t check the result of calculations manually, do you, because you trust the calculator.

Similarly, you probably don’t stress test every joint on every car you get into, do you?

My point being that there is a point at which you do trust the tool sufficiently.

Is it at the state of cancer diagnosis? Definitely not. How about cooking? Yes, pretty much it is. I trust it more or less when cooking and making drinks.

I’ve also gotten a ton of actually helpfil medical information that real life doctors fucked up.

So yeah one should be critical but just don’t be a complete luddite.

I mean they still advocated for everyone voting in general.

You can do that if you’re confident you can win. Which is why the gerrymandering apes could do it. But they still did it, because they knew they didn’t have to worry about the election, so they could say the right thing, even if it isn’t what they did. Because advocating for everyone voting you makes you seem confident, and the perception of the people would be “must be an honest man” instead of “oh shit they’re that confident, how have they fixed this system I know to be crooked”.

Or that’s how I perceived this conversation of you guys.

Tldr you’re both right essentially

“Oh shit those guys know their rights and are armed, I’m reconsidering my power tripping. :F”

It’s very ironic that basically that Black Panthers were the reason for gun control laws. That, like someone said today, the only way to make things happen in the US is when the rich white people become utterly scared.

On that note…

Oh hunny.

I’m sure there’s lots of things that don’t make sense to you.

Would you like me to simplify it for you, to make it easier for you understand, as it seems you’re one of the people who can’t control their drug use and may have actually fried their (already tiny to begin with) brain?

So you would do if for free?

Because you said you do that for a living. Meaning people pay you for the time you work on these things.

Have you any idea how costly that time is to your employer? That’s rhetorical, ofc you don’t.

Would you do go to work if it didn’t cover your rent?

You have admitted it does take some work. It doesn’t just happen, right.

So what is it you’re trying to say?

If he had your skills, he’d work for free? You would do the amount of work required, for free?

You’re just an arrogant dick who didn’t read the thread and said stupid shit. Simple as that.

Oh no, you’re just not reading the thread properly and going along with that other fool.

How about you actually read the thread instead of leaving snarky comments.

Children should be seen and not heard.

Oh they were, yes, you’re 100% correct.

This thread is about how people aren’t willing to cover the costs when labour is included.

Then you comment with “if he had more technical acumen, he wouldn’t need to do [the labour that people are unwilling to pay for]”.

If he doesn’t know how and doesn’t have the means to do something he shouldn’t be doing it. End of story.

He does know how. He’s saying he doesn’t have the means, because either he has to spend his time working full time, leaving no time for the labour people are unwilling to pay for, or people pay for the labour they’re unwilling to pay for, giving him the means, in which he will be able to do it, because he already has the knowledge.

Kinda how if someone gave me a huge plot of land, a quarry, and a billion dollars, I’d have no you’ve building a castle. But since I only know how to build one and don’t have the land, resource or time to labour a few hundred years building a castle bymeself, I’m not able to build a castle, but it’s not because I don’t know how to.

Maybe some reading comprehension or writing practice would do you good?

You’re saying he doesn’t need to do any work, that all thr work will just do itself, as long as he knows how it’s supposed to be done.

You don’t think maintaining a Mastodon instance takes any active input from the person maintaining the instance? Just knowing how to do it is enough to set up all the hardware and software required?

Sounds rather magical to me. Please explain

Haven’t had shrooms probably about since you were in diapers.

And I don’t drink liquor.

But hey, thanks for the input.

So youre saying if he just knew how to do it, he wouldn’t actually need to do it?

I know how to build a medieval castle with a moat and I’d have the technical acumen to build large sustainable hydroponic gardens there as well.

So why is it that I don’t have a castle, when I know how to build one?