

Even in ToS, there’s signs of it. and once you see that… the whole utopian thing becomes… insidiously subversive.
like. a very dark commentary.
Even in ToS, there’s signs of it. and once you see that… the whole utopian thing becomes… insidiously subversive.
like. a very dark commentary.
I always head-cannoned the reason starfleet didn’t care about red (or TNG gold) shirts was because of a massive population problem on earth. Tons of of people desperate to get into a stable, “safe” job, and starfleet was better than most, despite the risks.
I also like to headcanon that the shows are recruitment and propaganda work, following Picard as the least offensive and most utopian Captain in the same way people in the US think the US is awesome and cool and “liberators” when we’re very much not.
You know… it takes a certain kind of something to ride into battle on what is either a weird sex toy, or a weird vacuum attachment, and still be intimidating.
24th century cultivars are just renamed and rebranded 23th century cultivars.
It all started with Scotty’s use of the warp nacelles as a grow… which the constant exposure to that… created the strains Quantum Leaf and Warped Dream. mostly, Warped Dream getting renamed because…well. it sounds like a bad trip.
Wait. Rose isn’t baked all the time?
It’s not her fault for not being as baked as Bev, though. The 23rd century weed was some special stuff.
Well we know he would definitely not.
Unless Paris was trying to rope him into it.
Harri is a smart lad. I’m sure he could get around replicator restrictions and print something that was a second pip.
Is Harry talking about his promotion?
There was also panar (spelling?) syndrome? From when Tpol got mind-raped by the freaky Vulcan dude.
that moment when the bromance becomes something more.
You know what they say about men with long treasure trails….
(They’re Hairy.)
We talking about the kiddos Janeway and Paris had?
I am, but I also never pass up an opportunity to make fun of Ryker.
Oh. Ryker is panicking. He’s never been on a second date before.
it’s… from hitchhiker’s guide to the galaxy.
yeah. that tracks. AI makes the shittiest shit…
We have a neiboring HOA. holy shit, yeah.
Fun story. there’s an HOA that developled some property adjacent to our neighborhood. The HOA President lady has been hating on stray cats (thinking they’re being let out.) Like trying to poison them with bait level of hate. One day not too long ago, she posted a video on next door bitching about the cats again. Apparenlty a “Cat” was chilling on her front porch and “peed” on her, when she went to walk her annoying little freak. (it’s not the dogs fault. raised by bad humans.)
Anyhow. She posted the video to prove how awful the strays were.
It wasn’t a cat. It was a skunk. And it wasn’t piss. She got sprayed. and everyone on next door apparently started giving her fake solutions to getting sprayed.
Quark traffics everything,
But also, how do you explain why pretty much every time we see some one going in the bajoran temple…they hallucinate?
Oh you thought it was the glowy hourglass thing? Naw… that’s just to anchor the trip.
jordi’s big secret:
They didn’t end any of that, though.
Go watch the complete TOS and TNG shows. There’s a surprising amount of warfare in there.
TNG S1e3 Code of Honor, the entire premise is they need to source medicine for a disease that’s about to wipe an entire planet.
TOS Trouble with Tribbles are sourcing seed that’s supposed to be able to relieve a famine that’s currently happening. Incidentally, the grain is discovered to be toxic or poisoned or whatever by klingons… because the tribbles died off. (see also, “ended war”)
Well. Yeah. it’s not called SeaQuest.
that may have been Rodenberry’s intention… but but I don’t think Rodenberry planed for Treckies to disect every nuance of his show, either. The utopian society is very shallow. Almost like it’s a veneer spackled over something that’s very much not.
But as for the whole economy thing… there’s still an economy. The most you can say is that Federation citizens don’t get paid for their work or have currency as an exchange. but you still have an economy- extracting resources, refining those resources into useful materials, processing those materials into compenents and assembling them into… stuff. like starships and photon torpedoes and phasers.
Measure of a Man, the entire motive to lobotomize Data is to replicate the process and create androids to take on all the jobs people didn’t want. and the entire argument being considered by the dumbass jag lady is whether or not the prime directive applies because data is “a thing”, and therefore is he property or not.
I don’t think that a utopian society is possible, but it’s worth trying and working towards one all the same. And in that, I’m actually quite inspired by ST, and the morally dubious nature doesn’t dissuade from that goal, but rather show how difficult it is and how vigilance by “good peeps” is always necessary. I also don’t think a perfect society would have been very entertaining.