You’re definitely right that I went a bit extreme with what I used as a reason against it, but I feel like the point still stands about “just ask before you slam people’s servers with yet another bot on the pile of millions of bots hitting their F2B system”
In this scenario, I have multiple servers which are networked together and federated via ActivityPub but the server cluster itself is air gapped.
As to your questions about feasibility and purposes, I will admit I both didn’t think about that, and should have been more clear that this air gapped federated instance was theoretical lol
Going by your example
Air gapping my service is the agreement you’re talking about in this analogy, but otherwise I do actually agree with you. There is a lot of implied consent, but I think we have a near miss misunderstanding on one part.
In this scenario (analogies are nice but let’s get to reality) crawling the website to check the MAU, as harmless as it is, is still adding load to the server. A tiny amount, sure, but if you’re going to increase my workload by even 1% I wanna know beforehand. Thus, I put things on my website that say “don’t increase my workload” like robots.txt and whatnot.
Other people aren’t this concerned with their workload, in which case it might be fine to go with implied consent. However, it’s always best to follow the best practices and just make sure with the owner of a server that it’s okay to do anything to their server IMO
if you run a federated services… Is that enough to assume you consent
If she says yes to the marriage that doesn’t mean she permanently says yes to sex. I can run a fully air gapped “federated” instance if I want to
Well, you’re here on Lemmy using the ActivityPub protocol. How’s the experience been? Does the filtering fit your needs?
I realize you might be talking about the server side rather than for users, ie if you were gonna set up your own instance. In which case, what you’re referring to is called “federation/defederation.” My understanding is that you just have to go flip a switch on your backend to filter out a whole instance, a person, a community etc and nobody on your instance will see it anymore.
For whatever reason I’m struggling to remember how to properly explain the difference between push/pull protocols, but AP only moves data at a users request.
This means that if I follow you on Mastodon, and you comment on a post by some other third party which I have no interaction with, it’s going to bring that comment to me and bring along any other related data. In this case, that means the post you commented on and all of the other comments and data related to that post.
This cycle works constantly, so I get content from the other side of the world because I (in reality, my instance, not me in particular) interacts with a chain of instances to keep data flowing
I look at it like this: ActivityPub is to RSS as a GUI is to a CLI.
Meaning, you could already use the tools (RSS or the CLI) that are there to do the task, but someone has created something (protocol, AP or application, GUI) to make that task easier. In the case of RSS and AP, that task is generally getting content in front of the user. With RSS I have to go hunt down RSS feeds and whatnot, but with AP I just interact with stuff and wait for the people I interact with to interact with stuff, and then I get content.
Let me check if there’s an English article about that.
Who are you, God? Internet strangers doing things for the good of others is a sight for sore eyes
Without different vehicle types…
Does China have separate infrastructure for their industry driving or is it just not a common enough thing to worry about?
To be clear, I’m asking about things like semi trucks and not doordash
The point was “don’t add another bot into the pile of millions of bots that hit people’s servers every day unless you’re gonna be polite about it”