It’s not a matter of optimization.

Code that isn’t proper (which is obviously not limited to vibe code, but I would say that nearly all vibe code is improper) is technical debt. Unless your code is going to never be used and updated (which means, you don’t actually need it and you shouldn’t waste effort producing it), it will start rotting over time, causing long term issues and making everything that it touches worse.

To a lesser extent, this is what happened with web technologies, where everyone has been doing shit because they didn’t care, and now the whole ecosystem surrounding web technologies is a horrible festering mess of putrid code. Vibe coding does the same, but amplified extremely as it does not go through the filter of a human (yeah sure, I hear all the vibe coders screaming “but I check and fix my code” and anyone knows it’s bullshit).

In your example, it would be like plugging your house on an electricity cable, that comes from a power plant managed by monkeys pressing buttons randomly. Even if you argue that the monkeys are trained to press the right buttons, you have absolutely no control over what happens.

And let’s not forget your initial argument that vibe coding produces results faster, which is highly debated, and absolutely doesn’t hold if you want a certain quality of code (as this article shows).

So do you want electricity that takes one month to install but is safe, or electricity that gets installed in two weeks by monkeys, but burns your house down ?

It does not make sense to prioritise speed over quality when it comes to technical tools, that’s all, there is no way around it.

You are literally the kind of ignorant people I’m talking about.

It’s like telling a guy who makes wooden jewelry that “dude if u not faster with chainsaw I dunno what to say”, or to someone trying to take down a wall between two rooms that a bulldozer would be faster.

I still cannot comprehend that some people would be “smart” enough to understand basic programming, but then be absurdly lacking understanding of the matter to end with the conclusion that coding “skill” is about speed.

I just don’t know how to even make an example that explains how absurd that is. It’s like having a random naked dude in an archery competition screaming that he won because he shot his arrows faster than all the other contestant, even though most of them landed in the crowd.

I am really at a loss for words for how absurdly stupid that kind of vision of programming and technology is.

How many more years are going to be wasted with this crap?

Everyone knows that both in theory and practice, AIs are shit are producing code; the only ones who don’t are the ones who are themselves unable to produce decent code and refuse to see the problem.

But yes, let’s keep on pushing more and more until everything is drowned in worthless crap, as if we didn’t already have enough issues with humans producing crap like web technologies, now they’ll be riddled by even more crap.

I would say it is more complicated than that. They show the whole set of characters as trying to do their best to be nice and good, which does give a wrong idea of what cops are. But they do try to address some problems as well, so it’s not so clearly one or the other.

Messy code by humans generally isn’t logical because it went through multiple modifications/deletions that are not visible anymore.

I’m not sure that bad devs are much better than AIs, and they’re the ones using them to code now. I think the problem stems from not giving a shit about code making sense, and AIs just increase the problem.

I mean, I saw code that was essentially saying things like “if True == False” and when asking about what the purpose of the block was to the original dev (who wasn’t even such a bad dev), they just had no idea. Humans are chaotic and nonsensical and messy code comes from that, not from a weird logic, and you can’t comprehend it most of the times because it’s a mix of confusion, lack of planning, mistakes and laziness.

I face the same level of confusion when people like both of these shows, as when people complain star trek “became” woke.

Well for example there is a whole episode where “woke” people are mocked by showing them as ignorant and pathetic, to the point where it ends with one them offending themselves and exploding out of the frustration.

That’s just one thing from the top of my head. You could also talk about Tidus that ends up being shown as a pathetic useless crap, defined by three things that what the show deems more essential than the rest: he’s gay, fat and black.

One of the recurring (fatphobic) jokes is that he eats mayonnaise jars with a spoon, because everyone knows that that’s why obese people are obese, they’re just lazy stupid jokes, right? /s

And to quickly surf above random other examples, the whole Reverend thing is showing that it was mostly the victims’ fault for being too stupid while joking about rape, the character of Lillian is used to spit out a lot of racist shit because “she’s a funny old woman” but she’s still shown as a nice person somehow ; there’s an episode showing one of the victims trying to become a kidnapper too (wtf?) but ending up being taken seriously by no one because everyone automatically assumes that as a stupid woman she’s basically nothing more than a housewife.

Each episode gets worse than the next and conveys increasingly immoral viewpoints, so I’d frankly question your wife’s morals if she really liked the show.

At the beginning it’s just ambiguous, the jokes seem to try to tackle racism and discrimination while being a little discriminatory here and there, but overall not so bad. But the more the show progresses, the more it shifts into a lot of crap, spitting shit that you can tell directly comes from “anti-woke” bullshit and other far-right ideology.

Even the character of the rapist sect leader is sort of shown in a “more stupid than evil, and actually funny” view, which I still cannot understand

Have you seen it?

It’s one of the most discriminatory shows I’ve seen over years, and I include in that things like the big bang theory and ricky gervais. And worst of all, people seem to somehow think that it’s a sort of feel-good show or whatever.

Star Trek is way too leftist for this shit show.

Haha, best joke of the day.

Yeah no

So if I show you a video of a few nazis in uniform talking about something nice it’s wholesome?

I’m sorry but I can’t accept that. Wholesome stories don’t come from horrible people, and that’s all there is on 4chan.

Yeah and a lot more voted for Trump thinking he was a hero.

The masses aren’t right no matter what, and a site that is one of the main sources of all the horrible shit in modern societies is never going to be wholesome, even if a million people upvote this post.

4chan will never be wholesome.

I’d say that it doesn’t belong anywhere.

It wouldn’t be good at it, it would at most be a little patch for non audited code.

In the end it would just be an AI-powered antivirus.

Clothes very similar to the stereotypical “african clothes”, they have dark skin and it is a core part of their identity, they got the actor of Tyler as a way to have an “exotic” accent, they also made them cannibals, with weird voodoo religious rituals with suggested (even if not so simple) rape, and if I’m not mistaken they commit terrorist suicide attacks as well.

They feel like a concentrated mix of the racist ideas gathered over the past 200 years, and are used to show that they are scary. Or to make it more obvious, they are shown like “exotic brown people who hate the white ones, and just want to eat them, rape them, and suicide on them to mass murder civilians to instill fear”.

I’m not the only one who noticed that but I really can’t understand how anyone can not see it.

The weird ultra-racist stereotypes that sounded like they were designed by a colony-supporter of another era?

I wouldn’t call it a salty broth but a big racist piece of shit.

Most performance optimisation can be done through improving algorithms and data structures, and knowing well the language you’re using.

I don’t think I’ve encountered any performance issue that wasn’t either:

• Unavoidable because of what I’m doing
• Coming from an inefficient data structure or algorithm
• Coming from a bad use or pitfall of the language.

Of course there are specific cases such as low-power environments and such, but that’s not what most people talk about when they talk about performance.

I also would like to point out my confusion with the obsession towards performance when it’s not needed (such as “is languageA 10% faster than languageB?”) but then everyone putting web technologies everywhere, from games to desktop software. It’s starting to feel like performance is more of a cult than a pragmatic question at this point.