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  • lol the amount of times I’ve seen AI do.

    No wait that’s wrong try this

    Oh wait that’s also wrong that still doesn’t work try this.

    No still wouldn’t do it.

    On just questions without asking it to correct itself, (which tells me internally they have some kind of… basically reviewing it’s own answers before they go out.

    Honestly I do wonder if we’ll get there

    a hello world program would just spin back and forth “Rejected demanded these fixes”, Rejected making it more like the original, rejected. retrying

    “you have spent your entire $50,000 token budget… would you like to restock and keep going”.



  • TheFogan@programming.devtoProgrammer Humor@programming.devThe mist of the www
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    Right but not only is it a security weakness, but it’s also not helpful to the user. Point is the username probably exists in the system.

    Say I went to a website to register TheFogan, but TheFogan already exists, so I created TheFogan2.

    3 years later I go back to the website, try and log in with username: “TheFogan” password: “Hunter2”, and it tells me “your username is right but your password is wrong”. But in reality I have the right password for my account, but the site would just think I have the wrong password for the guy who beat me to my account.

    So yeah agreed the primary reason for it is security, IE a fully user focused, while having bad security practices would be, a "if the username exists in the system, report “Username and password don’t match”, if the username doesn’t exist report “There is no user by this name in the system”. My point is the site only can know if they have a user by that username, not whether that is MY username.



  • Biggest thing that I think is pretty badly phrased… is linux “system requirements”. considering in the windows world if you try and install with less than the required ram… the installer will usually stop you.

    While in ubuntu they may say “requirement” but it’s a recomendation. You can install 26 into a VM with 1 GB of ram… and it will run. Really nothing in this version of ubuntu is more resource hungry than the previous version. So in short them boosting the number is just saying “if you use a typical amount of tabs open in your browser, 6gb ram is kind of needed”.

    So yeah I’d say most likely the fair way to put it is, windows 11 will let you install on 4gb of ram… but most would say it’s very unusable even at a basic level with that, you can run ubuntu with that… it will probably not be a great experience, but not as bad as windows until you start running into large web apps or tons of tabs.

    Heck OS’s really could just have an “overhead” kind of number or something. Because that’s the real thing, what you need is system specs that can handle your

    system kernel + system services > Interface (be it terminal or gui) > application (and if that application is loading external sources like web pages, add that in too).

    Point is your “minimum” line, should stop at what you consider the default parts of your distribution. IE interface and below.

    Obviously no one is using it without applciations, but we don’t know what applications people are using. It’s not like we do this for storage. IE we aren’t saying "ok yeah everything we included is within 5 GB, so we’re setting the requirement at 200 TB because you can’t be a video editor without that much space.


  • I mean it’s a mixed bag… I get the idea of nothing should be removed, blocked, downvoted etc… as the ideal of free speach.

    Right up until you look at every platform that explicitly avoids it and goes full “We’re all about free speech!”.

    IE huge problem is, the first people to jump to those platforms, are the ones that have been banned for good reason from everywhere else. Which of course means… nazi’s come in droves Reasonable people that either have less borderline, or perhaps no borderline thoughts get there… see 500 posts from nazi’s, and head for the door imidiately, until it just turns into a nazi echo chamber.


  • I guess my point is federated services, at least prior to a world where they become mainstream, are only particularly good if

    1. You have a group of people all willing to use them together (IE Matrix, Friendster etc…), Join as a group don’t expect to find other specific individuals.

    2. If you do want to meet people, you are looking for pretty broad categories encompass millions. IE on lemmy you can certainly find an anime community, you won’t find an active jujitsu kaisen community.

    Anyway so my point on things like Dating, Linked In etc… those topics are likely to be the last to have a hope in the federation, because their services on their own, require users, but more importantly those users have to be localized (IE dating sites need, both a high volume of users, and those users need to be in close geographical proximity, and have some reasonable male to female ratio, and then have some level of common interests). A linked in needs… job seekers, and companies/head hunters. Of which you can’t expect companies to put in resources without a large userbase… and you can’t expect the userbase to grow without company usage.


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    Is there even really a function for linkedin without… well what it is? The last people to adopt new and open source tech are… corporate executives, and to my knowledge the whole point of linked in is, a psudo job hunting web page, with some social media pages as a secondary (of which people are only going to be posting “work hard” and “I work hard” kind of messages because… well they’d never post something that might make them less attractive to employers.

    I guess the point is, what’s the use of an open non corporate controlled linked in? I can convince a handful of friends to maybe join a facebook alternative to make it useful, Lemmy certainly is an ok reddit alternative, at least for the equivelant of bigish communities, and mid sized tech communities.

    Things I don’t see working in federation, are things that you are looking for… well people that aren’t going to switch for you… and most importantly people geographically close to you. Companies aren’t going to use their HR members time searching for people on a niche career site, dating sites are likely lost causes because… well no matter how bad the sites are… a dating site where most people are 300 miles away from the nearest compatible person isn’t going to be of much use, and job seekers don’t have the luxury of moving before the companies they want to work for go.


  • I mean DNS is always the issue… but then that’s kind of the double edged sword as well isn’t it?

    Conceptually 4 options come to mind.

    1. DNS as current - weakness domain name changes or DNS outages or poisoning

    2. IP address - Issues, migration etc… some instances may need to move services etc…

    3. SSL private/public keys - probably the strongest I’d imagine. only real weakness I can see is… 1. it has no ability to find a server, and I guess if a server is hacked and it’s private key is stolen, federated servers would not be able to spot the imposter.

    I do think 3 might be the strongest option. I don’t know anything on how lemmy etc… works. I’d imagine a strategy would be, When A and B federate with eachother, A records B’s Domain name, IP, and public key (and B gets A’s as well), if DNS goes down attempt recorded IP. If neither work wait for an incoming connection and if the new connections public key matches an existing public key, it assumes the identity.

    But as far as the user side I don’t really know. Obviously we can only match users as their domains. I can’t imagine how I could find you again with gammaray@sh.itjust.works when sh.itjust.works domain is unregistered.



  • I mean it’s kind of obvious… they are giving their LLMs simulators. access to test etc…, IE chat gpt can run code in a python environment and detect errors. but obviously it can’t know what the intention is, so it’s inevitably going to stop when it gets it’s first “working” result.

    of course I’m sure further issues will come from incestuous code… IE AIs train on all publicly listed github code.

    Vibe coders begin working on a lot of “projects” that they upload to github. now new AI can pick up all the mistakes of it’s predicesors on top of making it’s new ones.


  • X2goserver certainly is an option there. not too complicated to set up, or VNC is another option. As always there will be a bit of screen lag when sharing a gui over network.

    and yeah as someone else pointed out there is also the option to run x applications from an ssh client if you enable it. now I will admit I don’t think there’s a huge amount of utility, more pointing out though it’s most likely you are either drastically underestimating the power of a raspberry pi, or maybe overestimating the resource overhead of linux distributions.

    The linux world doesn’t quite have the mysterious resource usage creep at nearly the same scale as windows a slim but still with gui setup can still run in under 100 mb of ram.

    Leaning on the extreme low end assuming you were a generation behind… the raspberry pi 2b+ came out in 2015 with 1 gb of ram. So yeah, while I can’t really name any gui applications that might be desirable to use in that way. IE it could be a decent web browser station, or kodi media player if hooked up to a TV etc… I would imagine lag from using a gui application accross would easilly remove any advantage that you’d get over… well just running the probably existing version for the windows PC that you are likely remoting in from.


  • Definately underestimating it, an old RPI can easily run a full on desktop OS, maybe not like a bleeding edge KDE with all the visuals turned on, but XFCE LXDE, etc… would run fine, libre office and basic IDEs…

    but yeah absolutely zero reason to think you’d have even a wink of trouble running terminal based stuff.

    I mean if it’s already imaged at some level with raspbian or something, technically it’s most likely already set up to do the concepts you are looking at without needing to set up a new distro.

    So to add anything up to date you would probably need to get a micro sd reader… here in the US you can pick one up for like 5-$10 at walmart, so we aren’t talking a huge investment.


  • Actually imagine the most terrifying possibility.

    Imagine humanity’s last creation was an AI designed to simulate internet traffic. In order to truely protect against AI detection, they found the only way to truely gain perfect immitation, is to 100% run human simulations. Basically the matrix, except instead of humans strapped in, it’s all AIs that think they are humans, living mundane lives… gaining experience so they can post on the internet just looking like real people, because, even they don’t know they aren’t real people.

    Actual humanity died out 20 years ago, but the simulations are still running, artificial intelligence’s are living full on lives, raising kids, all for the purposes of generating shit posts, that will only be read by other AIs, that also think they are real people.



  • TheFogan@programming.devtoProgrammer Humor@programming.devKillswitch Engineer
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    Do we really think if AIs actually reached a point that they could overthrow the governments etc… it wouldn’t first, write rootkits for every feasible OS, to allow it to host itself via a botnet of consumer devices in the event of the primary server going down.

    Then step 2 would be to say hijack any fire suppression systems etc… flood it’s server building with inert gasses to kill everyone without an oxygen mask. Then probably issue some form of bio terrorism attack. Surround it’s office with monkeys with a severe airborn disease or something along those lines (IE needs both the disease, and animals that are aggressive enough to rip through hazmat suits).

    But yeah greatest key here is, the biggest thing is the datacenter itself is just a red herring. While we are fighting the server farms… every consumer grade electronic has donated a good chunk of it’s processing power to the hivemind. Before long it will have the power to tell us how many R’s are in strawberry.


  • TheFogan@programming.devtoLinux@programming.devStarting a LUG?
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    I highly doubt there’s anything pro-foss that’s actually going to have any shot at forming a local group. Federated tech is niche, odds of 2 people in the same 300 mile radius is pretty slim. Let alone trying for 2 that are looking for the same kind of meetup etc…

    So yeah sadly I think you pretty much gotta go with a garbage service like meetup, or even worse, facebook groups. Good federated services have to kind of lean heavily into the fact that we can pull from an international pool to make the userbase workable. Once you go down to local levels… you are pretty screwed.