I don’t know what to tell you. I searched rental listings and based my calculations off that. Reality disagreeing with your preconceptions is not my problem.

My first apartment was $525, I was making $10/hr as a gas station clerk, which you will find comes out to 52.5 hours of work. Full time work is 160-175hrs/month, so that was just under a third of my wages, and my math shows 1/3 < 1/2.

Prices for apartments have certainly outpaced wages, I won’t argue against that, and obviously the calculations are a bit different if you’re trying to live downtown in a major city. But those examples are way nicer than a peasant’s hovel anyway. Trailer rent is still pretty cheap.

I’m basing everything on 2025 numbers. You seem to be just making claims based on vibes.

I live in a major US state in a moderate to high cost of living city. Most of the populous states have minimum wages between $12-18. Rent at a trailer park is easily doable at 1.5hrs/day at $15/hr.

The lowest level of legal living is almost infinitely more expensive as a proportion of work hours now than ever before in history.

That kind of ridiculous hyperbole doesn’t instill much confidence in the accuracy of the rest of your claims.

A studio apartment in my region, at the outskirts of a city, costs 50hrs at my state’s minimum wage per month, under 2 hours a day on average. This source estimates 1620hrs/year of work for a 13th century peasant, an average of about 4.5 hours a day (although this was mostly seasonal, that doesn’t affect our average). About half of that went to the lord or church, so we’re talking a little over 2.2hrs/day for a peasant to afford rent, compared to 1.6hrs/day in the modern era.

And again, that apartment is connected to water, electricity, and Internet. It has modern insulation and air conditioning. So even just for lodging, we work fewer hours for more comfortable accommodations.

We do work more overall, but that’s more to furnish the luxuries of modern life (compared to a 13th century peasant).

it is kinda sad that there still are things peasants had that we don’t (like shorter working hours and longer breaks)

I don’t think you’d have to work longer hours than a medieval peasant if you were living a comparable lifestyle: a thatched roof hovel, basic staple foods, no electricity or running water, no car, phone, television, computer, or appliances, etc. Plus those working hours are often spent sitting at a desk pushing buttons, instead of sweating in a field.

Reminds me of a joke:

The faculty of the engineering department at a university are gifted a free vacation retreat. Once everyone is in their seats on the plane, the captain announces that the very plane they’re sitting in was designed and built by their own students.

Chaos breaks out as the passengers scramble for the exits, until only one professor remains, calmly and confidently poised in his seat.

Naturally, he is asked why he didn’t panic like his colleagues. With a knowing smile he replies “I know the abilities of my students, I’ve seen what they’re capable of accomplishing when they apply themselves. I can assure you this piece of shit will never start.”

Don’t see any toe pro on those boots, and dip cans are generally perfectly round.

You can always download more

They start out as discussions, but it only takes one party to turn that into an argument. Generally though, continuing the argument is more to convince onlookers than the argumentative party.

What are we gonna do unless they are?

A bygone era of a simpler Internet. Time marches on, so it goes.

Takes me back