Is it worse than Clojure?
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bitcrafter@programming.devto Opensource@programming.dev•systemd has been a complete, utter, unmitigated success52·5 days agoUh, good for you?
I’m confused… was that wall of text supposed to have sold me on something?
You want to turn my 300 lines of clear, readable and concise logic into 1,000 lines of English paragraphs that break up the functions of my code into yet smaller pieces of code devoid of context?
If a function has 300 lines without a lot of supporting documentation then I doubt that it is “clear, readable and concise” anyway.
Now I have to dig through that book, ignoring all the shit I’ve read hundreds of times because it doesn’t compile into anything, just to debug an off-by-1 error in a loop buried in a paragraph explaining the original developers diatribe on why we’re looping over that range?
I have never found it hard at all to skip past comments that are not relevant because my code editor helpfully colors them differently from the rest of the code, making it easy. Does your editor not do the same?
(Also, by now you should be especially good at skipping past it, given that you have apparently “read [it] hundreds of times” instead of skipping past it, for some reason.)
This is the sort of academic crap that sounds good but in practice is just terrible for anything other than small projects that are intended specifically to teach.
It depends on what you are doing. If you are implementing relatively simple logic like a REST API handler, then it is probably overkill. If you are implementing a relatively advanced algorithm, then having a running narrative of what is going can be extremely helpful.
It’s not immediately obvious to me where the examples are.
bitcrafter@programming.devto Privacy@programming.dev•Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE1·16 days agoNope, that was entirely an invention on your part. Recall that my actual words were:
It is much better to acknowledge that blowing up the building is a non-peaceful act and then examine it critically in order to determine whether it is really worth it, then to dismiss it as being peaceful which makes it seem like it is not a big deal.
If, after examining it critically, you decide to go ahead, then so be it; you just shouldn’t skip that step because blowing things up is kind of a big deal, even when merited.
(Believe it or not, I actually try my best to choose my words carefully in order to convey my position as clearly as possible; I cannot help the fact that people do not seem to put as much care into reading them in return.)
By I am extremely curious about how you would respond to the question in my comment, though:
But if I am part of the problem, let me ask you this: what acts of violence have you personally carried out recently to fight fascism? Or are you part of the problem too?
I would also add that if the answer to the first question is “none”, then: why not?
bitcrafter@programming.devto Privacy@programming.dev•Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE11·17 days agoDemolition of facist tools of invasion of privacy is literally what this community is about. “Abolition” if you require a synonym.
I do not think that it is within the power of these particular protestors to “abolish” anything, so saying they should do that next seems a bit silly.
Thank you for not removing your beam from the ICE course of violence.
Where did I ever say that their course of violence was not bad? That is a projection on your part. You are arguing with an invented fantasy version of me rather than the person that actually exists.
But hey, let me help you out a bit. If you think that violence is necessary, then I would actually strongly recommend reading the Bhagavad Gita because it has you covered, as it is basically all about a god (Lord Krishna) trying to convince a man (Arjuna) not to abandon a battle on both the physical and spiritual plain. Lots of verses are relevant, but to limit myself to a few (2:31-33):
Considering your dharma, you should not vacillate. For a warrior, nothing is higher than a war against evil. The warrior confronted with such a war should be pleased, Arjuna, for it comes as an open gate to heaven. But if you do not participate in this battle against evil, you will incur sin, violating your dharma and your honor.
bitcrafter@programming.devto Privacy@programming.dev•Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE1·17 days agoOk. Thank you for admitting you don’t comprehend the point of protests.
You just linked to a play in order to make your point. That is pretty consistent with you living in a world of fantasy, I must say.
Until you learn how dictators have been stripped from their violence historically, I have no further use to engage your bad faith view of demolition.
If you think that demolishing a building is the best course of action at this time then so be it, but don’t act like I am the one with a bad faith view because you insist on calling it a peaceful act, and I am merely pointing it out.
bitcrafter@programming.devto Privacy@programming.dev•Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE11·17 days agoSo you are arguing that the optimal strategy is to do one protest to make your point about the state, and then start unleashing violence?
bitcrafter@programming.devto Privacy@programming.dev•Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE21·17 days agoSo the ultimate point was to criticize these people for merely engaging in another protest rather than doing something effective?
bitcrafter@programming.devto Privacy@programming.dev•Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE15·17 days agoWhat “non-violent solution bullshit”? I never said that violence was never an acceptable solution (in fact, nor did I even use the word “violence”), just that it should be called what it is.
But if I am part of the problem, let me ask you this: what acts of violence have you personally carried out recently to fight fascism? Or are you part of the problem too?
bitcrafter@programming.devto Privacy@programming.dev•Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE24·17 days agoIf they had believed it was the best option at the very beginning, then nothing had been stopping her family from fleeing somewhere else instead of going into hiding when it would have arguably been easiest to do so.
Also, it would not be enough to wound some of the soldiers; you would have to kill all of them before they were able to kill you and then capture your friends. Nonetheless, once her family had been discovered, I acknowledge that was really the only option that had a chance of keeping them from being captured. It is one thing to say that, though, and another to actually start shooting when you are the one faced with such a decision.
bitcrafter@programming.devto Privacy@programming.dev•Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE6·17 days agoNah, keep it around and poison it with bad information so that the people using it make poor decisions, just like they did with Sauron in the Lord of the Rings!
bitcrafter@programming.devto Privacy@programming.dev•Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE18·17 days agoYou did not have to go out of your way to admit your lack of reading comprehension, but I appreciate you for doing so anyway! 😆
bitcrafter@programming.devto Privacy@programming.dev•Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE24·17 days agoIf the people keeping her family in hiding had chosen to open fire on the Gestapo instead of keeping her family’s presence a secret, then it is not clear to me how it would have resulted in her living longer than she did.
bitcrafter@programming.devto Privacy@programming.dev•Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE17·17 days agoThey didn’t, but lots of people here have wished that they (or someone else) would.
bitcrafter@programming.devto Privacy@programming.dev•Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE27·17 days agoAgreed, but if you had the option of hiding your friends, then that would probably be better than shooting at the people trying to take them away for the simple reason then you would probably get outshot, and if not then more would likely follow. If you don’t have that option, though, then by all means start shooting if that is the only way to save their lives.
Applied to this situation: it would probably be better for this group to protest peacefully for as long as they can because once they start blowing up buildings then most likely martial law or something similar will be declared and they will likely lose the ability to do anything unless they can win against the military. Additionally, they would likely end up alienating the general population, so there would be few places they could go to for support.
bitcrafter@programming.devto Privacy@programming.dev•Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE14·17 days agoI mean, if you are not going to engage with the things I actually said, then there is only so much I can in response. 😃
Enjoy your “later dork” Parthian shot.
bitcrafter@programming.devto Privacy@programming.dev•Protesters blockade Palantir offices over tech firm’s ‘totalitarian’ work with ICE13·17 days agoI genuinely appreciate your concern, but you do not have to worry about me. 😀
Thank you, my human language parser is not fully operational at the moment so I actually appreciated this summary!