I think for about 2 weeks Voat had potential. Then the Nazis moved in and it was doomed.

The five-assed monkey of cert lifetimes.

As useless measures go this will certainly be one; especially while CRLs are a thing.

Ha ha ha.

I love how lennart’s cancer tries to replicate fucking syslog and it’s this bad. What a mess the kids worship.

Every part of what you just said can be encapsulated in proper packaging so you don’t even need to care – about pre/post upgrades, or even dependencies and checks before it starts.

The lack of a proper release is the absolute only thing keeping me from using it.

The installation workflow begs for supply-chain exploits. Given this and its oob install, it probably breaks iso27002 as well.

I’ll wait. NextCloud and OwnCloud both have 27002-compliant installs (the latter needs some review), so I need to stick with those.

effect you

This doesn’t mean what you think it means.

Still container-dependent?

OCIS is a modern app that is massively better since its written with modern languages / frameworks

Ah, the sparkle makes it better? I know a guy who made his RAM light up in his plexiglas case, and claims it made the computer faster. Same deal?

OCIS talks a good talk, almost suggesting it’s enterprise and scalable and such, but it still suffers from the same supply-chain risk that all the black-box container miasma does, and the same “just get your kerbal space shuttle launching and then you too can host this awesome simple install” math. The ‘single black-box binary’ isn’t a good fall-back measure.

Now, I realize I’ve cast aspersions on our holy neu-paradigm installation fad, and I get the downvotes. If people don’t understand why validation is an important part of the validation-proves-consistency-thus-reliability of enterprise build/release, that’s okay. Most people don’t know they even need proper releng practice anyway, but may react with downvotes. But we need to do better where it matters; and that’s a line that’s going to seem as arbitrary as a bedtime is to a tween.

This. If I pay the cost in frustration and anguish and soul-searching and demanding justice from an uncaring god, I want something for it. I want documentation. I want my lessons learned from the post incident review. I want something I can hack into mgmtConfig to make sure nothing else will do that too.

Struggling for no payoff is the absolute worst thing.

What you get is something with an acceptable warranty and maybe some support.

What you then realize is what you DON’T have on your consumer gear.

There’s like 2-3 watchable ‘reality’ TV series. Survivor has been watchable when I would try; the amazing race one as well. But they’re not narcissistic dreck where casuals are trying to be underpaid actors playing the worst people imaginable. They’re just game shows.

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say The Price is Right and Wheel of Fortune are very affordable reality programmes too.

The rest of them are shite.

I get that. Coleen Haskell, ‘Boston’ Rob, and the Marines guy, were stand-out characters. Many of them, though, just fade into the noise like any other gameshow contestant does.

I just checked out frigate, and I see it crutches on docker. Anything docker-free?

You found a solution and you are looking for a problem.

This is not the way it goes. You identify a problem, and if the solution involves self-hosting then you solve it with self-hosting.

Is this a guy who stole someone’s tweet, put a pic of themself in the background and the posted it without comment? If so, can we call it low-effort coattails?

Yep. But owncloud went from old and idle to active again. It seems to be a more LTS take on it where NextCloud is your All Features Faster mandate.

Just show me the one that doesn’t rely on containers, venvs, npm or other supply-chain risks.

Yep, two reasons I’m out.

They don’t realize the colors are arbitrary. Many don’t realize the internet spans the world.

Socialism and democracy are good words in some countries. Socialism is how my sister in law gets to retire at 55 and in excellent health, and democracy is how they got that.

I dearly wish to use and support this app.

But here’s the thing: containers - like so many other mechanisms - suffer from supply-chain risks due to reduced validation to the degree assumed and required compared to, say, good packaging that integrates with the resident source of truth on a given system. Containers, like so many other risky mechanisms that dates back to CPAN or earlier, cannot exist in a secure environment.

For those of us working where we can to minimize repair/recovery work through best practice, Immich cannot be run.

I know there’s a homebrew workaround, but given it’s external to the dev effort it’s a risk that it won’t suddenly work as a reliable update resource; and that risk stymies uptake for us.

Now, I know I’ve suggested there’s imperfection in a number of favourite technologies and methods, and that’s fine. If downvotes is how you defend these sacred cows, I understand.

Correct: it’s like trying to equate “correct” with “popular”, and keeping in mind how the last US elections have turned out.

But it’s good to be in a big network of other users with the same product, nonetheless.