All credit to @fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com

They’re already in our lemmy instance. nodebb is a bbcode style forum and it recently added fediverse integration, so you can follow lemmy comms from it and vice-versa.

What are you looking for? For memes we got !adhd@lemmy.dbzer0.com and !ausomememes@lemmy.dbzer0.com which trigger a lot of discussions in the comments. For general purpose there’s !adhd@lemmy.world !autism@lemmy.world and !Autism@lemmy.dbzer0.com

How is the ai? I always lose patience with civ games because the ai is braindead and at higher difficulties just cheats insanely to make up for it

If it quacks like a duck, and it walks like a duck…

Wait, not only are you misinterpreting what I said (I used alien.top as a case of for “admins will want to defederate because of resource abuse even when their own users find it useful” and less about “admins will ban any bot-only instance”) but your interpretation directly contradicts your first point.

And I bring up botsin.space as a bot-heavy instance which wasn’t widely defederated which obviuously proves you wrong on what constitures “resource abuse” enough to be defederated. I.e. you’re cherry-picking your example to prove your point. There’s a difference between an instance trying to duplicate all of fucking reddit, and 24 bots posting 2xday. FFS.

Yeah, you can add the “reasonable output” qualifier all you want. This would be a subjective point.

With botsin.space, we have a good example of what is reasonable to not be defederated.

And I am not arguing “everyone will defederate from instances running bots”.

This is exactly what you were arguing. There’s no reason to bring up alien.top otherwise.

This is not an hypothetical scenario. It happened with alien.top.

I am not going to argue this point. My only point in this discussion is that one can safely self-host bots with a reasonable output and have little chance of being widely defederated. I merely wanted to debunk your argument that self-hosting such bots would be de-federated by everyone.

You’re arguing with a right-libertarian, FYI. This should explain some of their positions and arguments better.

plenty of instances have mastodon.art and tech.lgbt defederated. So what? Your point was that it would be widespread, which was factually not the case. It was nowhere widespread and I know this because I was using it for my bots and could see their reach.

It seems the dev just wanted to run it as a personal fork and never understood the reason for the pr standards in a collaborative environment

I wasn’t supporting an alternative. I was merely pointing the lie in your statement that having bots in one’s instance is grounds for massive defederation. Don’t try to divert.

Botsin.space existed for a long while and wasn’t widely defederated. Just saying…

Third one should be called “A Bot”

While this seems better than a lot of others, these types of systems are very easily manipulated by mass media, so functioning inside capitalism is already a massive problem. In any case it’s difficult to judge the efficacy, only with one rich protected nation as an example. The biggest thing is that labour is pacified a lot by a high standard of living, which is supported by the imperialism of the other nations supporting them.

I’m not familiar with it

The admin db0 does have a distrust in democracy

Clarification: Representative/Capitalist democracy. Not all types of democracy.

They deserve each other

There’s also the other case where you start a comm on a smaller instance, and then later on someone starts the same comm on l.w. and gets by default more activity >_<

Absolutely. It’s just that redditors are used to the existing order and want to see it replicated in lemmy immediately, jumping over the underlying steps of community growing.