I think this is just how many people have learned to browse the web even if they don’t have ADHD.

Good lord. I’m not having a debate about the adequacy of an analogy. Well done.

Like any analogy, it doesn’t perfectly map to the complex issue being analogised (?), but it’s not as absurd as you’re making out.

The architecture for plugin support is not free. Even if no plugins are active the platform is built to support all the extra nonsense.

lighttpd is the leanest webdav implementation i can think of. Obviously it doesn’t have sync and sharing and permissions, but it’s an interesting point of reference demonstrating how over engineered nextcloud really is.

If you’re a fan, and want all of this stuff bundled together then fine, have at it. As I said up top, I am using it but I dislike it immensely.

Those are add-ons.

Besides which, o365 is not a single self hosted php behemoth.

I’m loathe to extoll the virtues of 365. I don’t use it and never will.

Oh please. AWD is not “better” 4WD. 2 different things for completely different purposes.

Sure that’s why I drive my 4wd anywhere i want to go - i don’t want or need 4wd but I can just not use that functionality.

Sorry what office suite is basic NC functionality that has been there for a long time?

Well if I uninstaller them what would i complain about?

Nextcloud isn’t a 365 competitor?

It’s filesync with contacts and calendar.

Even once you build in documents and spreadsheets, 365 at least has separate applications for that - its not a single overblown behemoth.

KeepassXC is the only thing that makes sense to me.

I don’t want all my passwords stored with some huge target like lastpass or bitwarden.

Encrypted local (and synced) DB is the only way.

Kinda sounds awful honestly.

I do use nextcloud for my small team. It’s the best of the selfhosted file sync platforms.

That said, it’s obscenely over engineered.

Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?

Correct.

Suppose you wanted students to upload assignments or something.

I’m gonna try out sftpgo when I have a minute. Docs say it does this.

Not really. Nextcloud does this. They call it a “file drop”.

Like you create a share link for a folder, and then specify that users of that link can’t see any files, only upload.

Edit: looking at the docs this one seems quite good. Thanks!

I was looking at this. Best option i found prior to making this post.

That was the first place I looked.

Sure ok. If this is some crypto BS then that’s reason enough to avoid the platform.

I just didn’t think the CSAM angle is much of a criticism, even if they did try to minimise it.

This seems kinda harsh.

CSAM distribution is possible on pretty much any platform.

As long as the platform isn’t obfuscating a user’s IP address then I don’t see how it’s any worse than any other platform.

A few weeks ago everyone in this community was fawning over some dev’s new anonymous zero-knowledge file sharing platform and no one seemed to care that it would be overrun with CSAM.

I use wireguard and have public DNS refer to private IPs.

For example if my server is accessible at 10.0.0.1 via wireguard then I point *.myserver.mydomain.com to that IP.

Sorry if I’ve misunderstood your question.

This sounds like a real nightmare.

If the admins have had enough then I imagine there’s not much appetite for something like this.

I can’t comment on whether the admins are likely to be open to this, but it’s definitely more drama than simply shutting down.

The data users provided to lemm.ee was entrusted to the admins of that instance. It might not seem like a big deal, but just handing it over isn’t really appropriate.

Honestly I think it’s simply that “nuclear” is a one-word solution to a complex problem that doesn’t require anyone to interrupt their view of the rolling landscape with a noisy turbine. If you start there then you can build up a narrative around how nuclear is the only sensible solution but it’s still just vibe-based reasoning.