Ohhhh thank you for clearing some of this up! I’m still kinda new to this.

That’s wild how many people seem to fit all 3 dimensions — and so strongly that they’re seemingly offended by some light criticism of any EV? Am I reading the situation right? (Edit: er, maybe it offended people that fit in one or two of those groups… Unions vs. intersections)

Hot take (apparently): Some vehicles — including but not limited to EVs — are ugly. I stand by that.

The old USPS delivery vehicle wasn’t pretty either, but somehow I think nobody would be offended by that.

I swear social media people make me feel like an alien sometimes lol

I’m judging only the vehicle’s appearances, not the entire vehicle.

Here’s an exhaustive list of things I know about this vehicle.

1. It’s ugly.

I assume it’s a huge upgrade over the Grumman LLV. For all I know, it could be the best vehicle in the world for that purpose, with the best drivetrain and battery tech available, and a huge cargo area to handle the present day’s e-commerce workload.

It’s just ugly, that’s all.

… that you are qualified enough as an “armchair influencer” to train the vehicle’s designer in the new career that you said they ought to seek.

This is the confusing part for me. Where did I say that they should seek a career in being an influencer, or that I’m one? I’m not even remotely qualified in that field, and would never claim to be.

Ah. I know almost nothing about EV maintenance, but considering how many decades USPS used the Grumman, yeah probably best to minimize maintenance costs/work

Not sure I follow. They designed them for social media? Or do you think I said anything referencing social media?

Did you mean to reply to some other comment?

Valid point.

🤔 I wonder if it could have been designed without that part altogether. I’ve driven one of those flat-fronted Isuzu box trucks before, and it’s crazy how much more you can see in front of the vehicle.

According to Wikipedia, the Grumman LLV was in production from 1986—1994… Which seems kinda wild to me in 2025.

Also according to Wikipedia, when used for mail delivery, its average fuel economy is 8.2—10 mpg 😬

I’ve never seen one of those on the road yet, but whoever designed them should probably consider a career change.

EDIT: I’ve accepted that I’ll just never understand why some things get down-voted here. Like, do people actually like the way that design looks?

It looks like a Grumman LLV somehow reproduced with a cartoon duck, a pug, and one of these:

Years ago, when I was in the computer repair business, there was an industry term for apps that did this: spyware. It was considered a form of malware back then. I still think it’s wild that spyware has become so widely accepted in society.