

iptables is deprecated for like a decade now, the fact that both still use it might be the source of the problem here.


iptables is deprecated for like a decade now, the fact that both still use it might be the source of the problem here.


That’s great news. Will be waiting for it.


You explained it quite well, I just didn’t think you were serious.
Let’s go back to my original question. A company that’s dismantling itself for a quarterly profit. Obviously Microsoft doesn’t fit since they are doing it for many years now and are still going strong even if just on paper like you say.
So according to your analysis when will it be dismantled? Will they go down in 3 months as a punishment for the latest quarterly profit? Maybe a year? 5 years? Will it happen in this century?


Undoubtedly they conceded to Wall St pressure to sacrifice research and engineering funding to goose short-term profits
That’s an interesting statement. So let’s go like 15 years ago. What short-term profits were they pursuing? And how can you call them short-term when those profits lasted for so long?


Microsoft for 8 years now is a company that sells Linux and opensource.
Non of their divisions you mentioned were profitable for many years now(especially Windows), just look at their yearly reports. Only logical to get rid of them. Don’t agree with your Azure statement, don’t mind me, numbers don’t agree with it.
I don’t get why you wrote so much about gaming, Microsoft never was a gaming company. And frankly nothing important for gamers was lost with them buying those empty shells of game developer companies, then shutting them down.
I can agree on the AI hype especially with recent github news. But those are recent, we’ll have to see if that was bad or good decision.


Microsoft is doing pretty well so I wouldn’t call it “dismantling”, it seems to be working for them.


Fair point. Has meant IT companies.


Pretty sure Intel is still alive and their problems are systematic from many years ago when AMD released Bulldozer and Intel decided it can stop innovating. So don’t think they fit here.


Microsoft nowadays is one of the evil companies. Microsoft back in the day was the evil company.


Companies are dismantling themselves for one more good quarter
Any example of this?


And for a good reason.


Why would anyone fire someone who works so much for so little?


Well we do know that Sam was under the influence of the Ring when he carried it just a little. So if he was the Ringbearer he definitely could cook food and do other stuff to bring the Ring to Sauron.
I’m not belittling the importance of Sam to destroy the Ring, he was absolutely necessary, but even more so was Frodo.


Are we even sure it’s the same person?
Well he’s not wrong. The decompression would be a problem though.
In Linux-land usually we just recompile all of the software from source
That’s just incorrect. Apart from 3 guys who have no better things to do no one in “Linux-land” does that.


It probably won’t, they were banned due to sanctions that the EU completely support. Though they were unblocked so it raises questions was the ban even legitimate and also why it took 2 weeks to unban them.
Edit. Also will it be as easy to organize ban of other services by making a commit with Russian vpn?


30 years ago I’m sure there was the equivalent of people who exclusively worked in assembly who thought the same about C programmers
Isn’t it exactly the point Linus was making about Rust?


Bringing 2 languages into the kernel does create a divide that can come with a maintenance burden
There are already 2 languages in the kernel: C and Assembly(for example).
should be properly addressed and argued with pros/cons
That already happened and Linus decided to accept Rust code into the kernel.
Do you need a test? They will.