Admiral Patrick

I’m surprisingly level-headed for being a walking knot of anxiety.

Ask me anything.

I also develop Tesseract UI for Lemmy/Sublinks

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  • For a website, forum, blog, etc, at least the damage caused by poor security would be limited to just that platform. Unfortunate, but contained. With federation, that poor security becomes everyone else’s problem as well. Hence my gripe lol.

    It’s been so long since I setup my instance, I honestly don’t recall what the default “Registration mode” is.

    I’m but a small drop in the larger fediverse, but I do develop a frontend for Lemmy. I actually coded the “Registration” section in the admin panel to nag you if the config is insecure. lol

    It will still let you do it, just with a persistent nag message on that page.




  • So let’s say instance A and B are defederated from each other, but both are federated with instance C. After a user from A posts something on C does every user from B get to downvote everything?

    Yes. Instance A will not see the downvotes from instance B, but instance C would. Also, anyone federated with all 3 would see the downvotes from B for content posted by someone on A.

    The only defense is that mods and admins can see the votes and, if something like that is suspected, they can take action (ban the accounts, mods report the behavior to admins, consider defederating from instance B, etc). Seeing a pattern of mass-downvotes only from a particular instance would be considered a red flag for most admins.

    This scenario is less likely than what we see in practice, though, since the overhead to create an instance and the “eggs all in one basket” make it easy to take action against (admins would quickly coordinate to block that instance). Tools like Fediseer would also be used to censure that instance and bring its behavior to light.

    In the wild, it’s far more common for them to just spin up a bunch of accounts across “good” instances (particularly those without registration applications) and coordinate.

    One example of that: https://dubvee.org/post/1878799


    1. Have an actual mission statement beyond just being a general purpose instance (e.g Beehaw, my instance, most of the topic-based ones, etc)
    2. Replace the default frontend with anything better than Lemmy-UI
    3. Building on #1, try to curate the experience into something positive.
    4. Block the toxic aspects as best you can by default. Don’t make new users discover and deal with the toxicity on their own. There’s plenty of other general purpose instances that will let people rawdog everything (and everyone) on the Fediverse if that’s what someone wants.
    5. Focus on “quality over quantity” and block all the content repost bots / defed from the instances that do nothing but repost Reddit content. Disallow AI slop in all its forms and focus on human interactions.
    6. Consider hiding/disallowing Politics communities and don’t allow accounts who post with an obvious agenda.
    7. Systematically Identify and ban accounts that do nothing but downvote (if everything here displeases them so much, perhaps they should go elsewhere, ya know?)
    8. Clean up duplicate posts; even if they’re slightly different, seeing the same story posted 10 times gets old for users.

  • What the hell happened? … I thought FlyingSquid was OK … I had lots of run-ins with them and every time I saw them as being pretty OK … opinionated and prolific but also pretty liberal and open minded on many things. I know that not everyone will agree with everything all the time, that is just human nature … we can’t all be OK with one another on everything on all issues, all the time.

    So what happened? … it’s upsetting because when vague posts like this appear, it’s hard on us who are not fully clued into the community of mods and heavy posters who are plugged in with one another.

    I’m not 100% read in on the story, and I’ve only heard authoritatively that he has quit Lemmy. I didn’t mean to be vague, but also, I didn’t want to disclose anything I may not be good to disclose (especially when I don’t have a firsthand account of the full story). Basically, I don’t want to spread / start any rumors.

    I’m stating this all as an outside observer, but yeah, definitely opinionated and like you said, open minded on most things. Being a prolific contributor, he attracted a LOT of abuse from some real shithead accounts over the last few years. I’ve seen many of those accounts twist his words around, put words in his mouth, and make accusations/name call based off of those twisted and out-of-context quotes. For better or worse, Squid often didn’t know when to quit / just hit the block button. He was also the target of a few particular trolls (as were I and Jordan Lund, so he had a support group for that lol; those were more hilarious than traumatizing though)

    I can only speak for myself in this regard, but stress like that is definitely cumulative. I have thought about leaving many times myself, but have instead block/banned my way to mental health. Perhaps he’ll come back some day, perhaps not.