southsamurai

Nooo! Not the trank! I shall immediately turn into a cat girl! Alas, alack!

Fiiiiine

I hates the trans characters so much! No matter how much they reflect reality and improve a story! Noes, oh woes, the trans characters must goes!

Ummm…

Oh noes! I hates the trans actors! No mores pleas!

I really can’t find any differences in performance or functionality other than those that cooks just as well be from the different platforms

I favor ironfox, which is easiest to find via fdroid. It’s very similar to librewolf in goals and settings to enhance privacy

There isn’t yet

Crazy eyes be trippin

Nooooo, reeeaaaalllly?!

I totally get it. It’s why I try to just avoid either asking for them, or using them irl, if a person hasn’t volunteered them or otherwise made their gender known.

I’ve run into enough people that have issues with pronouns that it made me question how necessary it really is to use them. There’s times it’s unavoidable if you don’t want to do language gymnastics that make things more awkward and uncomfortable, but it’s kinda surprising how often it’s avoidable once the habit forms. Not that I always remember, but still.

But… I want to join the pronoun cuddle circle :(

Fucking mind flayers and their grand design!

Doesn’t mean others can’t run with the idea though :)

Oh yeah, Klingon daddy, do me in the Jeffries tube! Do me hard.

But yeah, you know horny ensigns looking for a hidden spot would wedge themselves in there

There would have to be some kind of underground trade in spank bank programs lol. No matter how utopian you want to get, humans at least are sexual beings, and I don’t see that not being expressed in holo when there’s already full on pirate scenarios lol

Well, I am charming as fuck lol. Maybe.

Bad joke aside, from what I’ve seen it’s more about how they disagree more than the fact of. Don’t get me wrong, there’s a fundamental personality issue going on there, and he can be difficult. I just haven’t seen much in the way of arbitrary bans just for holding different beliefs. There is a lower threshold for, shall we say, aggressive disagreements though.

Mind you, I don’t haunt the mod logs and track down every occurrence. Just taking a general sense of things over the years.

I dunno, I had a few slap fights with dessalines, but no bans. So, even that tiny margin is different at least

You know, it’s implied there’s sex in the holodeck, at least in the shows. Haven’t read the books to have a clue about that. But, if trek were real, I sometimes wonder how the policy of that would have developed.

I tend to be the sort that if I voice something akin to this subject and it gets twisted into an allegation, I’m going to explain what I mean more fully, or determine if the person just has an axe to grind, or at least take the time to examine their take and see if I should change my thinking on a subject. If they just have an axe to grind, I’m out because I don’t have patience for zealots. If it was a misunderstanding, then it’s easy to fix. It is also entirely possible that someone could come up with something I hadn’t considered.

I’m old as fuck though. It makes me a bit more willing to listen than when I was younger and might have gotten het up over someone bringing up a tangent to a big issue. And, I’m also less willing to tolerate when someone is just looking for an argument by throwing an allegation and assuming the worst rather than just talking like a decent human being. I’m too old to argue with a zealot, so I just walk away. Even online, I have to be in a foul mood before I’ll give energy to someone that’s not acting in good faith with me as a fellow human being. In meat space, I have body language, tone and such to help make that determination, so I tend to walk away quicker (though often with an eye roll and some muttering about wasted time.)

Legit though, in the comic’s scenario, there would be nothing that could come after the “but” that would be germaine. Hypothetically, yeah, a person could be coming up with something that wasn’t going to negate the original statement. It just doesn’t work out that way when it comes to discussion of marginalized peoples. Like, since I first became aware of humans being shitty to groups of humans they don’t like, it’s a thing. Nobody ever throws out “I support gays, but…”, or “black people deserve civil rights, but…” without following up with something that works against their previous statement.

Folks bringing up stuff like your example? They’re not going to say it the same way. “But” is used in a way that negates more often than not, and when it’s about supporting a marginalized group, I have never seen anyone throw a but without negating their supposed support. Worse, it’s fairly common in my experience that the “but” ends up being a dog whistle or outright bigoted.

Going back to the vegan example (and let me interject that this conversation has been really awesome, I love it when people engage the way you are), if someone says “but animal hormones”, they’re effectively saying that their belief in appropriate manufacture of medical products is more important than the rights of trans people to access gender affirming care.

If they didn’t think that, they’d most likely, go with “and it sucks that trans people have reduced access to ethically sourced hormones”. It’s a different way of thinking about a given issue. There’s ways to expand a conversation to include one’s related thoughts without using a negating conjunction. You know in role play and improv, there’s a guiding principle of “yes, and” instead of “yes, but”? It applies in this kind of situation, with the choice of but rather than and pointing to a less humorous situation.

Like, in running over this example, if I had an objection to the source of the hormones, my way of expressing it would come out “I support trans people. I really wish the pharmaceutical industry would support them in a way that reduces harm to animals as well. We can have both.” That’s the phrasing that came into my head when I put myself in that hypothetical vegan’s place.

It’s a different way of communication, it’s a different way of thinking.

With most things, I would tend to agree. It’s just that with marginalized groups, that “but” is only rarely going to be something that’s not just a dismissal of some part of the fundamental issues that make the group marginalized in the first place.

Not sure who has experienced what, but here in the south I have lost track of how many times I’ve heard things like “black people are great, but…” or “I don’t have anything against gays, but…”

There’s a way of thinking behind buts when applied to this kind of matter that’s different from “I like shrimp, but…”

Hopefully with consent ;)