• ikt@aussie.zoneBanned from community
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    19 days ago

    That’s a lot of hypocrisy.

    Definitely not, if you look at all the emissions charts they show all western countries are in a downward trend

    It should be noted that China has done more with renewables and getting ICE vehicles off the road than any Western country

    That’s not true Norway has a new car 98%+ EV sales rate

    If you want to go by per capita then there’s loads that have done more:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_by_country

    😁

    The average person in India and China contributes substantially less to global emissions than the average Westerner

    And rightly so! There is a lot more of them! They have a greater responsibility to reduce their emissions, just like we do compared to the coco’s islands

    As said they’re doing great on the renewables front, they are also doing extremely bad on the co2 output front

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      17 days ago

      But therein lies the hipocrisy. The nations that have had historically excessive CO2 emissions (especially per capita) should not be telling nations that emit significantly less per person what to do.

      50% of cumulative emissions from 20% of global population. That’s the data point that captures the reality of the situation we’re in. Looking at the past 20 years or recent trends only provides a myopic perspective in my view.

      Don’t get me wrong, these nations have achieved an incredible quality of life for their people through this excess but they shouldn’t be suprised when other countries work towards the same for their people, which will involve expanding utilization of conventional energy in the short term. You or I are not more worthy than a person in China, India or Africa of having a good quality of life.

      Props to Norway to for the milestone but they do not manufacture EVs, they import them, and third are Teslas. Politics aside, Chinese EVs are innovating at a pace far beyond anything Tesla has been able to muster in the past 5 years. Innovation is important as it drives adoption.

      I’m glad that the nations that have historically contributed the most to climate change are acting to offset that excess. I’m also very impressed with nations that are both expanding their grids and increasing proportion of renewable utilization simultaneously. Ultimately we all share this planet and what’s happened in the past is what it is. We didn’t know then what we know now. I think we both want to see overall emissions decrease and here’s hoping that we see more global collaboration towards that.