• MalReynolds@slrpnk.net
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    slumped

    JF, the EV market is going ballistic everywhere that isn’t the US ffs. Inventing reality FTW. Have you considered there might be something wrong with your market?

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    Interesting seeing the increase over time. Cribbed from the article, top 3 in 2026 in terms of longest range with the lowest cost (miles per $1k) are:

    1. Nissan Leaf - 303 mi. / $31,500 = 9.6
    2. Chevrolet Equinox EV - 319 mi. / $36,800 = 8.7
    3. Subaru Uncharted - 308 mi. / $36,400 = 8.5

    At 250mi for the Bolt EUV, I usually don’t get range anxiety outside of road trips but having driven my relative’s Equinox EV extensively, I can say that the extra 70 miles is really nice.

    In a few years, I’d just want 350+ range at a reasonable price. Everything else is just window dressing.

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      Making up prices, but:

      • Slate EV- 150 mi. / $25,000 = 6

      • Slate long range - 240 mi. / $30,000 = 8

      That’s not awesome

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        Yeah it’s not looking too good at the moment. Telo is another EV startup and they’re shooting for a 350mi model at $46k which would be 7.6.

        Hoping battery tech advances or continues to get cheaper at scale. Ford is supposedly working on an affordable EV platform but still too early to tell.

        Otherwise, a used EV might be the way to go.

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          I’m still really worried about whether Telo will last. Slate at least has better financial backing.

          And yeah, I hope Ford makes an EV Ranger and hopefully Maverick on their new platform.

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    We love our Volt, sadly not made anymore. The thing in short supply is OEM battery replacements. Both price and timeline means you would buy third party. Our Volt is 11 years old now battery fine.

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    Usually completely unrepairable though with proprietary software and firmware along with God awful parts supply. Modern vehicles both ICE & EV are absolute turds.

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      Depends on the producer really. Pretty much all the Chinese (and imitations of the Chinese) EVs have cheap parts always available. It is of course proprietary software and firmware though, but generally that’s just a ‘replace the whole VCU’ situation if anything there fucks up.

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        Chinese EV parts in Europe at least have massive shortages & replacing a VCU gets expensive quite fast and will wind up getting many cars scrapped due to the costs.

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          It’s ‘expensive’ in the same way replacing any part is expensive. Most VCU’s come in at less than 1% the purchase price of the car. Compare that to any major part of a ICE vehicle and you’d be saving money.

          Plus the majority of the expected repair and maintenance cost from EVs are tires every 30k km, brakes every 30k km or so, and a battery every 300k km. While suspension will run out eventually these parts are generally swappable with most producers, BYD uses the same suspension and steering parts as 70% of EV producers.

          Also Europe wouldn’t have massive shortages if they didn’t, you know, sanction and heavily tariff Chinese EV parts to protect domestic ICE production while refusing to build factories for EV vehicles at any useful rate. Norway doesn’t have issues with their Chinese EVs, and they get close to 70% of the range due to the cold.

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            You’re totally missing my gripe, I have nothing against EVs but rather modern cars in general due to their nigh universal unrepairability. & a control units cost compared to the new purchase price isnt the problem, its when a car is 3-5 years old & something breaks. And it isnt just the control units price either, you basically always need to have it coded at a dealership, replace any parts its been coded to.

            Suspension parts are absolutely not common to most manufacturers either you’ll get common parts between the various automotive groups but thats about it. You do get standardised sizes on the springs but the suspension links, arms, wheel mounts etc are all proprietary.

            In wet climates thin sheet metal fairs quite poorly which is what most of these cheaper vehicles are made from & BYD in particular really isnt great in this regard. Chery, Jaecoo etc tend to have better build quality in this area though.

            And repair costs on older ICE (and the limited number of EVs from 15-20 years ago) for virtually all parts is cheaper in large part due to labour but even the actual components arent that bad in comparison to modern vehicles.

            A new vehicle im actually excided for due to all my gripes is the slate truck for hopefully obvious reasons.