As another trans woman it has been so hard for me to connect with other trans women because of this.
I’m very critical of men and the way they behave in our society, and my cis girl friends and gay male friends almost always agree.
Now every time I bring this up to trans friends they jump to defend men, girl why are you defending men when they’re literally the ones killing trans women and cis women at exponential rates and you’re telling me that men don’t have a problem??
I genuinely don’t understand that need they have to defend men…
i dont know what specific points they defend men on, but i know for me i lived as a man for over 30 years so i have some thoughts and feelings on the pressures and toxic culture men are subject to. its true that there are a lot of shitty men in the world, but it’s also true that many men have been essentially abandoned by society. they aren’t rich, successful, handsome, masculine, or whatever enough so they are essentially treated as worthless. they get no emotional support or connection from anyone, and no one gives a shit about their struggles and problems. as always shitty men coopt these real issues to argue that they should be able to be even more shitty, but men face real serious problems in society that end up shuttling tons of them into the manosphere, making things worse for everyone. i would never defend anyone for being shitty, regardless of gender, but writing off all men on the basis of their gender is wrong, and only serves to reinforce the societal problems driving many of them to be shitty in the first place.
I think it’s obvious I’m not dumping all men in the group. The system that creates those problems for men was created by… Oh other men 😂
I can’t see a way the manosphere can be justified, sorry, I went through some wild shit is a kid and I’m not doing the trash men do.
oh the manosphere is totally unjustified. that shit is fucked and hurts everyone. im just saying theres a reason so many men end up there. acknowledging the nuances of problems doesnt mean they arent problems.
Yes men created the system but it was a tiny number who did this and lots of men such as myself are just as unhappy with the system more powerful and older men built for everyone. I had no say in it and I’ve been fighting against it all my life.
Are you making it obvious to the people you’re talking to who get defensive of men?
If you say “men” and are thinking of the majority of men who are toxic or tolerate other’s toxic behaviour, but the person you’re talking to hears “men” and is thinking of their amazing ally dad and brother, then the problem is that you’re essentially speaking different languages.