I mean im guessing its because it may not be as profitable, or atleast at first, boycotts or directly just capitalism fucking everything up? i legit always imagine aliens seeing us still use coal while having DISCOVERED IN 1932

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    It’s the current reality in both the US and Europe. And looking at the various serious construction defects that are surfacing in French plants that were build at a time when the government waived much of the red tape, these extra precautions save a lot of costs over the lifetime of the plants.

    Nuclear plants are very complex machines and government contractors are well known to cut corners and do shoddy work when not supervised well. This has nothing to do with fear mongering 🤷

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      No you’re just ignorantly wrong. New plants, even ones built around the same time as Chornobyl, are LITERALLY INCAPABLE of breaking in the same ways. This entire discussion is filled with ignorant people speaking confidantly.

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        No one talked about Chernobyl like disasters, please don’t argue silly strawmans.

        A large part of the French plants had to be recently shut down for very expensive repairs, because their containments developed serious cracks due to shoddy construction.

        I am not generally against nuclear reactors, and the ones already running should be kept online for the time being, but building new ones is complete economic nonsense and way better alternatives exist.

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          Yes it has been mentioned multiple times across the entire discussion. Besides, most people imagine containment breach when they think of nuclear disaster anyways, so it is absolutely not hyperbole to point out that it literally cannot happen.

          Your attitude is similar to the fools who freaked out when they heard Fukushima was releasing yons of “contaminated” water in to the ocean. Water that is less radioactive than many natural places around the planet. Water you could swim in every day of your life and still live just fine.

          The fear mongering is absolutely real and the ignorance about newer technology is staggering.

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            Again you are arguing a strawman. I am talking about costly repairs and cost / time overruns when constructing them. Nuclear reactors are just not making any economic sense 🤷

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              You’re using ONE example to say the entire industry is full of shoddy work and overruns, when I’ve already described several mechanisms that artificially balloon the costs in the first place. You can continue to pretend you’re correct, but you’re simply not.

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                There are endless examples. Just look up recent delays in the reactor under construction in the UK, or the hugely delayed and overly expensive one recently completed in Finland.

                There is no artificial balooning, quite the contrary. These contracts always go to the lowest bidder who then proceeds doing shoddy work and later blackmails the government for more money to complete the works.