Please kindly take your grift to Reddit, Facebook, or Twitter
With AI generated articles, spam, research, images, tutorials all creating halucinations your AI generated x will be no better and will only create more untrustworthy nonsense that will only clutter the homemade communities, posts, and comments here.
Personally I’m sick of this AI crap that’s plastered everywhere like microplastics and PFAS chemicals. The cons most certainly outweighs the pros and the ‘tech panaceas’ like blockchain, nfts, and llms mostly serves to prop up the rich class.
For the 2 years I’ve been here the new fediverse feels like what Reddit used to be and should have been before the enshitification and honestly I love it here. So please stop. We don’t need a Reddit 2.0
I’m just here to say I don’t want to read AI generated texts. Not even when marked as such. I prefer human to human communication. Generation quality isn’t there yet by a long shot.
Its not really generation its just summarisation of human generated text.
Assuming it’s right.
99% of the time it’s hallucinating, inventing two extra authors for the text (each with six fingers), misattributing a quote to at least one of them, and n otoriously missing the point of the article in favour of developing a more click-baity summary.
Go read the source and review the model page on huggingface and u will find thats not at all true for my implementation. The model im using provides a summary 60% identical to that of a human summary and >95% accurate in maintaining the original meaning.
Plus 99% is one hell of a an exaggeration.
Exactly. That means new thoughts and ideas can’t ever come from what is currently called Ai.
Thats not what im trying to do tho.
I get what you’re saying but so far in my experience here the vast majority of AI content is at least identified as such. AI content is here to stay and in my opinion attempts to remove/ban it will just make it more insidious. If you go back to Reddit AI posts/comments are everywhere and absolutely none of it is labeled. On lemmy people get to choose to interact with it which I think is probably way better
I disagree in that it should be allowed here just because:
“AI content is here to stay”
The reasoning for my belief is that the generation is near instantaneous in contrast to the effort that real people make to create things. The speed of creation creates an inherent problem in that it becomes near impossible to determine if that item is something worth of value to others, this causes a problem for both moderators and content consumers.
No one likes the time wastage that comes from low quality posts, comments, goods.
Time is something people can never get back.
Until the halucinations can be decreased to point where it causes no harm or is unnoticible, it will always have a more than likely negative cost to most people.
The argument that it should be allowed because it continues to exist is hard to justify in my opinion. The known and current cons are too costly to outweight the future potential pros.
Since AI content is usually clearly identified as such here, it is very easily blocked.
A social media site that you are not the admin or mod of is definitively not the appropriate place for you to attempt to enforce your opinions of what content is acceptable or not.
Downvote, block, and move on. Time is finite, and you are wasting it trying to police what other people should and shouldn’t post in a space where you have no authority.
Edit: To be clear, I agree about the dangers of AI. You might enjoy some of the discussions in Tech Takes on the awful.systems instance.
AI doesn’t need to be “hallucinationless” to be useful. It just needs to make less mistakes than the average creator. Which isn’t that high a bar.
Bro the only one wasting time here is you. I like AI content and come here for it.
Time is something people can never get back.
Thats why i have written a bot to helpfully summarise human written news articles to save u time.
Some people have different views about AI content, you think the summarizing is useful. Others think that it is more unreliable text to filter through.
The balance I’ve found is
- if it’s important and I have time: read it myself
- if it’s important and I don’t have time: save it for later
- if it’s not important (and I’m fine with reading someone else’s summary of it, knowing that their summary might be wrong), and curious enough, I’ll get a quick AI summary of it. Afterwards I might go back to read it properly if it sounds interesting, or skipping it happy I didn’t waste time on it
That’s actually why I liked having those summary bots in the comments.
- only generated once, so it saves some resources compared to many users generating it for themselves
- people who read the piece or know about the topic can call out issues
I like it when a bot tries to summarize articles that are so short already it doesn’t actually reduce it any further and just says saved 0% lmao
Thank god im not using a gpt model.
Nice. Yeah, I’m aware there is one bot here which does substantially better and doesn’t use the usual LLM approach. Sadly I was so annoyed by the 99% of other bots, so I’ve muted them all…
Same. I block just about every bot I see. They’re mostly annoying bullshit.
Isn’t the AI content on specific communities for that can be blocked if you don’t want to see it?
There is a debate to be had about AI generated art, which is trained on artist’s work and may not be the harmless fun people might think. AI summarising an article seems a different beast as it is merely pulling from that one piece and, while there may be questions about accuracy, it doesn’t seem as harmful. I’d, personally, want to read an article myself but it could be useful for other people. I could see an AI summarising videos being an actually useful tool.
If society tries to suppress something that will find it’s way, you will get it back, but hidden, harder to detect and maybe even changed in a harmful way.
We had it as humanity with alcohol bans, war on drugs, hateful speech bans and etc. We need systematic regulations for unavoidable, not prohibitions which will leak from all places.
Leaving it be while being explicit is reasonable.
I completely agree! The influx of AI-generated content really does feel overwhelming and often lacks the authenticity that makes online communities special. It’s frustrating to see platforms getting cluttered with low-quality posts that don’t add real value. I love the vibe of the fediverse and appreciate the genuine interactions we have here. Let’s keep it that way and focus on meaningful contributions!
I like your enthusiasm. But i just find it easier to avoid all the ai crap. Im not going to waste my time using it, even for “fun” reasons.
Maybe that’s the difference between grifters and everyone else. We don’t find it necessary to waste our time on the grift.
I won’t condone some fun though.
I agree. They can fuck off back to their AI filled cave.
absolutely i mean can you believe the audacity of these so-called elites sitting in their tech-filled caves thinking they can dictate our lives and control what we say and think its beyond ridiculous and we have to push back against this nonsense because they want to keep us in the dark while they pull the strings like puppeteers but we’re not their puppets we’re not going to let them dictate our reality anymore so let’s rise up and show them that we see through their lies and we’re not going to take it any longer it’s time to take back our power and tell them to shove it where the sun don’t shine
!^(generated by GPT4)!<
Why are you even here? This is the AI cave.
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Lemmy generally. I’m not making a factual statement just trying to make them feel unwelcome so they go away.
While I’m not particularly fond of using AI for any kind of truthful information, this post reeks of the classic “Quit having fun!” meme. Your value judgement of AI is no more valid than anyone elses, and honestly in my opinion, very misdirected and anger fueled.
It’s in everyone’s best interest for AI content to be honestly declared. You are almost certainly already consuming AI content from somewhere without knowing it because angry hate mobs have conditioned people to just lie and obfuscate their AI usage to avoid being the target of hate. And if not, you will eventually due to the power of the technology, as the entire creative industry is already silently integrating it, as everyone with an open mind knows, but the benefit of honesty towards closed minded angry people is none, and that situation is a shame.
Good AI usage is impossible to detect, and we should encourage honesty in regards to it.
It’s in everyone’s best interest for AI content to be honestly declared.
May i introduce you to the concept of corporations? It’s a frshly new thing from latest millennium, dunno if you’ve heard of it.
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U talking about !news_summary@lemmy.dbzer0.com?
Gotta love a grift published with an agpl licence. Invented it just to make money from these suckers who will buy anything with the letters AI on it.
Im not generating any articles, images, research etc. Im taking an existing article from an ecisting news source im summarising the article text using a purpise build summarisation model (the model has 60% identical output to that of a human, and >95% retention of meaning) the original article link is still posted with the summary.
The bot exists in its own community. If u dont like it block the community and/or the bot.
The complaint from op didn’t seem like they are complaining about summarizations but rather ai generated art, full articles, stories, etc.
In your case, perhaps a guilty conscience needs no accuser.Nope, they literally said it to OP earlier.
I guess they wanted a wider platform to harass someone from so they made this separate post.
In your case, you’re simply wrong.
But without you or the replier adding that context no one in this thread would know that… They didn’t mention that community, or any user, and the up/down ratio implies no one knew this outside information. In my case, only wrong because someone is dragging themselves into the drama instead of simply ignoring op.
Being ignorant of the truth doesnt make u right. It just makes u not realise when ur wrong.
The complaint from op was identical to a comment they made and shortly afterwards deleted from my announcement post.
Edit here it is: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13703325
No one knew or cared until you guys brought that separate information to the forefront instead of ignoring op and moving on. That’s what the phrase “guilty conscience needs no accuser” means, being a pick me instead of ignoring the haters.
No i needed the link in the thread. Cos when it comes to advertising all attention is good attention.
Sorry if I missed it, but did you have plans for a daily-ish summary of world events? Something like the lede of news articles before clickbait ruined everything…
Its in the roadmap for the future. The issue with it is that it will have to use a traditional gpt llm subject to hallucinations.
This post reeks of Reddit 2.0 typical AI-bashing. I love AI and I’m glad this is a fun place free of corpo shills and useful idiot anprim types.
