170mi of range is asinine. Considering battery losses, only charging to 80%, and needing to charge at 10%, you’re lucky to get 100 miles. No one can drive on the highway with that little range; my electric F150 Lightning loses 1/3 of its range at highway speeds.
I dunno… my sibling can make it a long way on a single charge, all the way to me and back. They haven’t had to use a fast charger yet. But if they do, my understanding is that Hyundai optimized the battery for charging speed instead of capacity.
Slate trucks are DOA with their current specs. They can’t tow on par with any truck or EV, they have sub 200mi range which makes road trips impossible, and they’re so bare bones that it’s not worth the trade offs. My cellular remote lock/unlock/climate/location in my current EV is the most useful and favorite part of my EV. I’d never buy an EV without them, no matter how enticing it is that I can put my own infotainment in the Slate truck.
I don’t understand Americans obsession about the ability to tow stuff. I’ve been driving a Peugeot 107 the last 14 years, with no hitch. Most things fit in the back, if the rear seats are folded down, we can even fit a washing machine in it. We have a roof rack for things that don’t fit. It’s only been a handful of times we either had to borrow my in-laws car, or pay to have something delivered.
Yeah, the Slate is probably not for a construction worker, nor for you, but I would love to have one
Speaking for myself, I like to trailer my horse to different places to go riding. Other people take boats/RVs/motorcycles to local, but not close, recreational areas. It also trivializes being able to move, and when you live in an apartment (the amount of Americans that own a house is definitely not increasing), being able to tow is fantastic as an option. The US is simply just very spread out, and because our government doesn’t subsidize much to be built across all communities, you kinda are forced to travel to what you like to do. Forget being able to move somewhere outdoorsy while maintaining a high degree of quality of life (high paying, easy, fulfilling jobs, while excluding living in an assbackwards red state).
Also, American appliances are much bigger than in Europe. My pedestrian washing machine at home holds more clothes than the washers I use at laundromats in Marseille when I visit.
Not really. Many of us really do tow things quite often. I personally have probably 150000 mi of towing trailers in the past 6 years. All over the intermountain West. On top of that as a work truck under 200 miles is also ridiculous. As I mentioned in one of my other comments there’s times where I fill up my gas tank four times a week. Just locally. That doesn’t include when I’m working out of town. Most of my trips even to the nearest state are almost 200 mi. And most of them are well over 200 mi. If I were to add in time on top of my travel and work for charging that would be extremely prohibitive.
https://www.slate.auto/en/slatemaker?garageDrawerExperience=false
They’re designed to use your own phone or tablet, running their app, so probably not all “dumb”, but close to
Yeah, I know all about the Slate. It’s a very cool concept.
Also see this Scottish EV: https://www.munro-ev.com/
I wish more manufacturers would take those ideas, though.
170mi of range is asinine. Considering battery losses, only charging to 80%, and needing to charge at 10%, you’re lucky to get 100 miles. No one can drive on the highway with that little range; my electric F150 Lightning loses 1/3 of its range at highway speeds.
It will be 100 miles in cold weather
There is a long list of EV companies that went nowhere. Canoo, Nikola, Aptera, Bollinger.
I dunno… my sibling can make it a long way on a single charge, all the way to me and back. They haven’t had to use a fast charger yet. But if they do, my understanding is that Hyundai optimized the battery for charging speed instead of capacity.
How many miles do you consider a long way?
~70 miles. That’s how far they are from me.
And their daily commute is 25 miles in heavy traffic.
That’s not much really.
Slate trucks are DOA with their current specs. They can’t tow on par with any truck or EV, they have sub 200mi range which makes road trips impossible, and they’re so bare bones that it’s not worth the trade offs. My cellular remote lock/unlock/climate/location in my current EV is the most useful and favorite part of my EV. I’d never buy an EV without them, no matter how enticing it is that I can put my own infotainment in the Slate truck.
I don’t understand Americans obsession about the ability to tow stuff. I’ve been driving a Peugeot 107 the last 14 years, with no hitch. Most things fit in the back, if the rear seats are folded down, we can even fit a washing machine in it. We have a roof rack for things that don’t fit. It’s only been a handful of times we either had to borrow my in-laws car, or pay to have something delivered.
Yeah, the Slate is probably not for a construction worker, nor for you, but I would love to have one
Speaking for myself, I like to trailer my horse to different places to go riding. Other people take boats/RVs/motorcycles to local, but not close, recreational areas. It also trivializes being able to move, and when you live in an apartment (the amount of Americans that own a house is definitely not increasing), being able to tow is fantastic as an option. The US is simply just very spread out, and because our government doesn’t subsidize much to be built across all communities, you kinda are forced to travel to what you like to do. Forget being able to move somewhere outdoorsy while maintaining a high degree of quality of life (high paying, easy, fulfilling jobs, while excluding living in an assbackwards red state).
A horse definitely necessitates towing capabilities, that will never fit in my car!
Where I live the coast is rarely more than 60 minutes drive away, so boats are just moored at the harbours, as we have no lakes to speak of
Also, American appliances are much bigger than in Europe. My pedestrian washing machine at home holds more clothes than the washers I use at laundromats in Marseille when I visit.
Towing is just an excuse for fat people to buy a pickup.
Not really. Many of us really do tow things quite often. I personally have probably 150000 mi of towing trailers in the past 6 years. All over the intermountain West. On top of that as a work truck under 200 miles is also ridiculous. As I mentioned in one of my other comments there’s times where I fill up my gas tank four times a week. Just locally. That doesn’t include when I’m working out of town. Most of my trips even to the nearest state are almost 200 mi. And most of them are well over 200 mi. If I were to add in time on top of my travel and work for charging that would be extremely prohibitive.
Most people buy trucks to commute to office jobs, or construction workers who commute to job sites where they then use company trucks.