• WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.com
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    8 days ago

    Plenty of men will quickly agree that men suck. If they they don’t, they’re either extremely naivë, from a different culture where men being awful isn’t the norm, or they’re not an exception for good reason.

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      7 days ago

      As a man, I’ve been mistreated by men, both while I was growing up and in adulthood. Nobody ever cared about my problems or trauma because when they look at me all they see is “Man = Privileged” and they don’t care about my problems, emotions, or well-being. Clearly they’ve never read bell hooks if they think that makes them a feminist.

      It’s always the oppression olympics: “No, you can’t have any problems or trauma, because what about all these other people whose problems and trauma are worse.” This isn’t a fucking competition, dude. Patriarchy hurts men too, and it doesn’t justify misandry.

      “Stick it to the man” means “the authorities and arbitrary structures of power,” not “some random dude down the street because he has no friends and that makes him an easy target.”

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        7 days ago

        Are you responding to the wrong person? If you are just looking for a place to stick your point, then cool.

        I agree that it sucks that awful people dismiss the problems of others for reasons as stupid as gender. Anyone who uses their own trauma or disadvantages to try to shutdown others talking about their own problems are also bad.

        Also, if anything I’m also a victim of those mechanism of how patriarchy hurts men? So yeah. It’s not great.

        And yet despite all of the things we seem to agree on, I still feel men suck and I think more men should be saying it.