That’s what my guy at Cargill is for!

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    Honestly, they already know – most farmers these days have college degrees in soil science or agribusiness or horticulture or whatever. After all, most farms are owned by Big Ag and they’ve presumably got the same “we just immediately shred your resume if you don’t have at least a bachelor’s, whether the job actually needs it or not” applicant gatekeeping standards as the rest of corporate America.

    If they’re not doing the sustainable thing it’s not because they’re ignorant, it’s because it’s less profitable than the unsustainable thing and they’re choosing the shortsighted option on purpose.

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      In 2019, a guy at my work told me that his cousin, who was significantly more rural than him, was working on plotting all his fields with drones so he could could largely automate harvesting as well as engage in targeted fertilizing, pesticide and herbicide application. Same person also apparently was running a (legal) grow operation out of a big barn that they were trying to make carbon neutral with on-site renewables.

      Folks in ‘rural’ trades can be very high tech if they know how it’ll make them money.

    • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.netOPM
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      A large reason for that is that corporate farms have won out over family farms. The family farms that are still standing have taken similar approaches and there’s been a lot more effort invested in actually learning the science and business as you point out. 30 years ago it was a much different story.

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        Uh, they’re not? It’s a very thin line between profit and bankruptcy. These men and women know what they’re doing.

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      Yeah I know this is just an AI generated meme, but people who look like this are actually pretty solar punk, in my experience. I first heard of fracking radishes from a 70 year old farmer, 15 years ago. This meme just promotes culture war bullshit.

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      Don’t kid yourself, there is still an assload of convention tillage and monocropping going on, at least in my neck of the woods.

      I’ve surveyed large swaths of agricultural land; hundreds of inspection points, and the B horizon has been completely lost due to annual tillage. In one case I had two pits 200 m away from each other. One was in the field and one was in a stand of trees they didn’t clear. The field profile had maybe 15 cm of A horizon with no structure over a calcareous C. The bush profile had 50 cm of well structured A horizon, and another 20 cm of B overtop of the same calcareous C. It was beautiful.

      In another field, a guy was moldboarding… This is just one of the surveys I’ve been on.

      There’s a lot of guys out there who know what they are doing, and they do it well, but at least in my opinion, regenerative Ag needs to catch on more. From my perspective, there seems to be resistance, though, and I’m not sure if it’s from economics, generational practices, or a combination of factors.

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    Legit farmers are often highly knowledgeable in their field (pun intended).

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      Especially now with the crazy tech being put into harvesting equipment. These guys can basically field strip a near fully autonomous combine harvester and put it back together with little more than a socket set and good ol’ grit. Not to mention they are definitely doing soil testing all the time and 100% know what should be planted where and when to maintain soil health.

      I watched a piece about machine vision being used to identify pests that harvesting equipment then shoots with lasers rather than just full coverage pesticide spraying. These folks are honestly near the leading edge of some wild tech, because they are actually putting it to clear, effective, use rather than generating 13.5 fingered images of their favorite cartoon character in the nude like so many other AI enjoyers.

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        I had a software dev job at a small agro company about 10 years ago, where I learned that modern harvesters weigh what they harvest and record the location before sweeping it into a hopper. From this data they produce a yield map that helps them decide how to adjust how they program their machines next year, in terms of seed spacing, watering, and applying various products to maximize the yield in each spot. I mentioned lasering bugs as a joke and they said that was either real or coming soon.

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    What do you mean all this nitrogen I’m putting down is burning my crops? I been doing it the same way for thirty-odds years.

    dumb city folk don’t know what they talk about

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      Dumb city folk think farmers don’t understand science.

      Without looking it up, what’s silage, what’s it for, how does it work. Go.

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        Silage is fermenting crops under an oxygen deficiency(this is crucial to stop the crops from rotting) to preserve the gras. Its basically an upscaled version of making sauerkraut.

        Easy as that.

        But yeah, this devinetively isn’t something everyone knows and also most people will never need this in their lives.