His armor was a little dented, his ship a little care worn.
But you know what? His world felt a little more realistic, his battles a little more hard fought and his weaknesses a little more understandable (and far less like the “weaknesses” you share at a job interview.)
When I start a rewatch of DS9, it still grates on me that he seemingly felt justified in holding Picard responsible for what happened to his wife. The guy was assimilated by the Borg, and Sisko has had years to come to terms with what happened before the conversation with Picard.
Later, I was able to appreciate the appeal of a flawed, complex, possibly more realistic Star Trek captain, but it did make him pretty unlikable, right off the bat, especially when I first saw it as a kid. I grew up on TNG, and Picard was my main man. Still, Brooks did a hell of a job on the series, and Sisko was a fantastic character.
To be fair to TNG, in my mind, it’s a trilogy with “family” where they actually had some continuity.
I hated that episode when I was a kid because after the big adventure it seemed boring. I can now appreciate it and Patrick Stewart acting still gets me when he breaks down in front of his brother.
Of course they forgot about it next episode and never talked about it again but…
Episode 1: I kind of didn’t care about the whole life falling apart backstory. Idk you yet this is weird you’re weird. You’re kind of a cool dad though.
Finale: I would bleed and fight for this man and rally the banner at any beckon of his guidance. Wisdom patience and just enough edge to him. He’s human and delightfully rounded out and fully replaced the janeway as my lead captain.
I said almost the same here a few weeks ago. Sisko got results, and wasn’t afraid to fight on occasion. I will love Picard cause he was the first captain I knew as a kid. But being a paragon will only get you so far. Sometimes you need to bend/break the rules & get your hands dirty if you want shit to get done!
In the pale moonlight is DS9, they needed the romulans to join against the dominion/cardassians so he did some unethical things that garak came up with to get them on side.
Picard is a paragon of federation virtue, and he was never in a situation where all the options were just as bad. There always a clear way forward.
(Though I do have to wonder what was said about data blasting the aqueduct.)
I do like both shows, but I also have this insidious headcannon that TNG is a federation holodrama produced as propaganda (exactly like Cops from the 90s)
Sisko was hands down, my favorite captain.
His armor was a little dented, his ship a little care worn.
But you know what? His world felt a little more realistic, his battles a little more hard fought and his weaknesses a little more understandable (and far less like the “weaknesses” you share at a job interview.)
And that all came from Avery.
When I start a rewatch of DS9, it still grates on me that he seemingly felt justified in holding Picard responsible for what happened to his wife. The guy was assimilated by the Borg, and Sisko has had years to come to terms with what happened before the conversation with Picard.
Later, I was able to appreciate the appeal of a flawed, complex, possibly more realistic Star Trek captain, but it did make him pretty unlikable, right off the bat, especially when I first saw it as a kid. I grew up on TNG, and Picard was my main man. Still, Brooks did a hell of a job on the series, and Sisko was a fantastic character.
Regardless of blame or guilt or even justification… Picard was still the face- the only real face.
Humans are messy. Sisko could intellectually recognize all this and still have that face bring up boatloads of trauma and grief.
TNG that would have been a side comment from Troi and forgotten halfway through the episode.
To be fair to TNG, in my mind, it’s a trilogy with “family” where they actually had some continuity.
I hated that episode when I was a kid because after the big adventure it seemed boring. I can now appreciate it and Patrick Stewart acting still gets me when he breaks down in front of his brother.
Of course they forgot about it next episode and never talked about it again but…
Episode 1: I kind of didn’t care about the whole life falling apart backstory. Idk you yet this is weird you’re weird. You’re kind of a cool dad though.
Finale: I would bleed and fight for this man and rally the banner at any beckon of his guidance. Wisdom patience and just enough edge to him. He’s human and delightfully rounded out and fully replaced the janeway as my lead captain.
I said almost the same here a few weeks ago. Sisko got results, and wasn’t afraid to fight on occasion. I will love Picard cause he was the first captain I knew as a kid. But being a paragon will only get you so far. Sometimes you need to bend/break the rules & get your hands dirty if you want shit to get done!
And it wasn’t like with Picard where he made a decision and apparently felt good enough about that it was business as normal once made.
Like In The Pale Moonlught when he brought the romulans into the fight.
There were no good answers. No ethical ones. He’ll have to live with it, and he can.
Good point! Maybe I should give tng another binge, cause I’m only remembering him as this stalwart of Starfleet doing everything by the viewscreen.
In the pale moonlight is DS9, they needed the romulans to join against the dominion/cardassians so he did some unethical things that garak came up with to get them on side.
Picard is a paragon of federation virtue, and he was never in a situation where all the options were just as bad. There always a clear way forward.
(Though I do have to wonder what was said about data blasting the aqueduct.)
My bad, I misunderstood your previous comment. Thanks for explaining it to my dumb dumb behind.
No worries.
I do like both shows, but I also have this insidious headcannon that TNG is a federation holodrama produced as propaganda (exactly like Cops from the 90s)
This is the second or third interjection I’ve seen from you in the past week I’ve been stuck up a frozen hill. I feel blessed to be part of one.
Fuck, I love that interpretation!