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    The emphasis of this scene is that the food is for free. Not that the holodeck can’t replicate food.

    However, there are other issues here. Firstly, it’s not a federation holodeck. Secondly, for some reason they’re not called holodecks either, but holosuites. This isn’t a direct comparison.

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      Yeah it’s called a suite because it’s not a deck of any sort on a ship.

      I’m still going to ask where you’re getting “all the food is real” from?

      Nor do I think them necessarily not being federation holotech, which I also don’t know where you’re getting that, but since DS9 was under Cardassian rule and whatnot it’s not entirely unbelievable.

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        I’m still going to ask where you’re getting “all the food is real” from?

        First episode of TNG describes the holodeck replicating things for authenticity, specifically when Riker got his suit wet for real with water from the holodeck.

        There have been multiple instances of this after the very first episode too.

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          I provided you with an actual photograph with a quote that’s clearly showing that holographic food isn’t real, as otherwise Quark wouldn’t need to offer the person real food.

          You’re just saying “trust me bro, it’s definitely real food”

          Sure, TNG has like water leaving the holodeck as wet people can walk out. But Voyager contradicts those notions.

          https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/143271/is-there-any-explanation-as-to-why-the-voyager-crew-dont-eat-on-the-holodeck

          Tldr;

          I just don’t see a way this could work.

          Like I’ve said, the holo-tech is just beyond inconsistent and should not be anyones idea of “hard” scifi. The explanations contradict each other from one episode to the next and especially from one show to the next. It’s soft scifi and I’m completely fine with that. Are you?

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            I provided you with an actual photograph with a quote that’s clearly showing that holographic food isn’t real,

            No you didn’t. You showed a photograph of Quark complaining about giving away free stuff. Other sources from Star Trek episodes themselves have verbally explained the holodeck replicates.

            Go watch Encounter at Farpoint again.

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              Yeah true screenshot not a photo.

              Anyway, it’s very clearly stated in it that it’s real food that he’s providing, with a strong implication that otherwise it’d be holographic.

              But I think most of what you have is pure conjecture.

              You know, because the holodecks are about as scientific as the TARDIS.

              Which you just refuse to admit, despite the various contradictions one can just rattle a list of.