Hi, I’m currently planning to try DIY by using spray. Anyone experiences with that?
If so:
How much do you try and where do you apply it?
Honestly, I’d have no idea how to get a consistent dosage with that. Aerosolized sprays have a lot of waste and inconsistent application, so I feel like every dose would be wildly inconsistent, and since it seems this particular route is made for cisgender women, I feel like getting a high enough dosage would be an issue. I’d think transdermal gels would be a better alternative, and those I know for a fact have been used on transgender women. Granted, I stand behind injections as the best method of administration, but different routes are for different people. I’d have to see some data on it before I could make any hard conclusions.
I’m from non UK Europe and from what I found, the only options for me to get are injections and spray and I can’t use injections because of fear of needles.
If allowed to ask/answer, any idea on how to get gel (my preferred method following my research) in my region?
Otokonoko has gel and delivers worldwide. Check the resources in the pinned post in this comm; plenty of sites to look for sources there
I had horrible fear of needles (would almost faint when blood was drawn for blood labs, for example), and basically came to terms with injections being necessary and learning how to injectand how to work with my phobia.
What made it possible for me to do injections was when I learned that you can inject subcutaneously with extremely thin needles - often I don’t feel any pain when I inject, and you can use much shorter needles as well.
I have a whole list of tips I came up with when I was learning to overcome my extreme needle phobia, I’ll share those in reply comments (there is too much for a single comment).
Tips and Tricks for Injecting Hormones
Location: do the injection somewhere that you will be safe if you pass out (somewhere soft, for example). It helps if the place is comforting as well. Do what you can to create a safe and comforting environment.
Position: when you are injecting, keep your legs propped up (when you start to faint, blood can rush to the legs and keeping them level with your heart can slow or prevent fainting). I like to sit on a couch with my back supported and use a firm pillow under my knees so that my legs can completely relax while remaining elevated / level with my heart.
Blood Pressure: to help avoid fainting, do what you can to increase your blood pressure:
- be as cold as you can tolerate (it shunts blood to your core from your extremities and increases blood pressure)
- drink lots of water and “overhydrate” before injecting (this also helps reduce pain)
Subq: to help with needle phobia I choose to inject subcutaneously (into fat) rather than intramuscularly. This is because subq injections can be done with a smaller gauge (not as thick) and shorter needle, so there is less pain and less anticipation of a big needle going into the body; I use 27G 1/2" needles (the grey ones) to inject and I barely feel any pain, sometimes there is literally no pain.
Draping: drape blankets over the parts of your body you’re not injecting into to make it easier to forget you’re injecting into your body (instead, make the injection site a foreign object, essentially dissociate from it and treat it as if it’s all just mechanical, don’t identify with the part you’re injecting into)
Body part: inject into body parts that you don’t find as disturbing to inject into; I find injecting into my belly much more distressing than injecting into my thigh (note: where you inject is constrained by the method you use, you can’t just inject anywhere - I’m relying on you knowing where you can or can’t inject, but figure out among those options which places are easier or harder for you mentally, if there is any difference at all)
Short break: especially when I first started injections I found it helpful to take a short break between drawing medication into the syringe and injecting; essentially this is about titrating exposure and minimizing built-up fear and anticipation. Over time I have found the need to do this has gone down, but I suggest it anyway - do something else, think about something else, don’t look at needles or think about injecting at all for a few minutes after drawing up medication and before injection.
Quick jab, not slow push: when injecting subq (I don’t do IM, so I can’t say if this applies), pinching the fat and injecting quickly in a forceful and committed way helps avoid pain, slowly pushing the needle in is not only more painful but much harder psychologically (it gives you time to think about it and panic), so it’s better to almost surprise yourself and let your hands do the motion without having to think about it too much, and doing it quickly means you can’t hype up the fear as its happening
Look away: I prefer not to look as the needle is going in, or out, and I like to keep a finger in the way of being able to see where the syringe meets the body while pushing the plunger down. Thinking about the needle in my body is part of what freaks me out and not seeing it helps reduce exposure - this may or may not apply to your needle phobia, and obviously you want to know you’re injecting in the right place - so I look and orient where I want to jab first, and sometimes I try to look at the rest of the syringe to coordinate the injection.
Don’t aspirate: subq injections of small volumes don’t require aspiration (that’s where you pull back a little on the plunger to see if there’s blood which indicates you’ve accidentally hit a vein), so don’t fret about whether you have hit anything and keep the injection mentally simple - I find it best to keep my mind elsewhere while the needle is in me, and to only think about the injection as little as is necessary to do it, make it procedural and stay narrow-minded. Keep yourself from thinking anything beyond that simple procedure (like: OK, thrust needle in; good, now slowly increase pressure on plunger; good now slowly remove needle) fill the gaps between steps in your mind with a distraction - I like to look out a window and take in a view, others might find music helpful. Don’t think about what you shouldn’t be thinking about, instead actively distract yourself with something else.
Distract & Mentally Cope: This tip is a bit weird, but sometimes my anxiety builds up such fear around injecting I almost cannot physically do it, and in those moments I find it helpful to take a deep breath and then think about other times I have experienced much worse pain or physical trauma. Remembering those instances, and in particular how those sensations were not as bad as I would have thought and how I survived those helps put the injection into perspective: this barely registers as painful, and is causing almost no physical damage to me. Don’t do this for a physical trauma that you are still disturbed by, it works best for cases where you’re not distressed by the example. Most people have stubbed their toe and that hurts so much more than the injection, but you may have a better example - experiment and find what’s helpful.
Contextualize the pain: similarly weird and maybe specific to me, there have been times where I have had things impale me by accident (like when gardening a dry reed of grass once shunted into my hand, or one time a stray sewing needle left on a bed ended up poking into my leg, etc.) - in my experience these were not traumatizing or fainting type episodes, there was something just matter of fact and not fear-inducing about these experiences for me, so sometimes I like to pretend that I’m not pushing a needle into me, but instead I think of it like that reed of grass - a benign object, nothing to be scared of. Somehow this bypasses some of my needle phobia. I suspect it’s because my needle phobia is based on medical trauma and by taking it out of the medical context in my mind I find it much easier to cope with. Depending on where your needle phobia comes from or what you are sensitive to this may or may not help (it may even make it worse).
Control: finally, I would just say that my needle phobia is minimal when injecting myself now and I realized having control over the injection was important to managing and overcoming that fear. I have more needle phobia when others draw blood now than when I inject myself, and at first the relationship was inverse: injecting myself seemed so much worse than having my blood drawn. Also each injection seems easier than the last for me, and if you can successfully inject without panicking or experiencing fear or other negative emotions, having those “positive” or at least neutral injection experiences helps build a little bit of mental safety, and you want to protect that sense of safety. You may not have control over this, but for me that has meant to whatever extent I could, I try to reduce exposure to negative experiences with needles and emphasize positive experiences (and when I’ve had a negative experience, I try to give myself time to recover before re-exposing myself, so I didn’t “spoil” the next experience as much).
Positive Associations: eat something sweet right after your injection as a way to build positive association with injections (there is actually research showing this helps, that’s part of the reasoning behind having candy at pediatrician’s offices). Likewise you can use fun bandaids (I use Welly bandaids) as a way to build some positive associations into your injections.
Thank you so much for the detailed answer. I think it could be a last resort, but my fear is a strong motivation to search alternatives.
I should add if you ever do injections it really helps to have a friend on your ear or present physically early on. I used to ask friends to sit with me in discord for my first shots.
I also wish to add I used to shake and at first couldn’t even penetrate the skin because I was so scared. Wasted a few doses this way.
Now it’s super easy. I have a little routine and it’s very quick. A few minutes once per week.
+1 to having someone there who can
helpsupport you (for me other people being around made it worse, so I did it alone, but it was good to have someone nearby in case I fainted).Also can confirm I would get so scared I just physically couldn’t do it - this still happens to me sometimes. I find it helps to have eaten enough food just before (as well as hydrating significantly) - this is grounding and helps reduce chances I’ll get faint or mentally struggle as much.
And also can confirm it gets easy over time - now it’s no problem at all, I inject once a week and it’s almost never dramatic or painful.
Also, might be good to have a little towel nearby in case you have a little blood come out - it didn’t always happen, but early on I started with injections into my thigh, and my thighs are very vascular and I frequently would bleed from subq injections; now I inject in my belly (which was mentally something I had to work up to), and I have far less bleeding. Either way, just have something to catch a drip in case it happens.
having someone there who can help you
They don’t need to help! I just had them there for emotional support! But having someone who knows how to do shots there is ofc gonna be helpful too
yeah, sorry - I meant emotionally mostly - reworded it to make more sense
I was pretty afraid of what would happen if I fainted, so having someone nearby was supportive for me, and it makes sense in general to have emotional support in that moment.
So in order to do DIY with spray you will also need a blocker (and with gel too), but as others I will also recommend gel or injections over spray. Injections are scary at first, but I promise you it becomes easier with time.
Gel is fairly easy, but you need to apply two to three times per day. Also be careful not to get any on the hand you will be taking blood tests from. Also, don’t get spray or gel on anyone else. I have ADHD and I tended to forget to apply at times. It can take a moment for it to dry, but then after that you’re good to go. With spray it’s all fairly similar.
Thank you so much
Spray? That’s a new one to me, and I’ve heard of pills, patches, injections and gels.
Don’t forget pellets!
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The doctor part is a problem … Will need to wait over 6 months until I can get approval.
What? DIY or spray?
I’ve found patches work best for me if you can get 'em. Just clean with some alcohol and apply. I also tend to forget and with patches it’s less of a deal to miss a day cuz the patches are active up to a week and the drop off is gradual. It’s possible albeit expensive to order online from within the EU. PM me if you want to know from where. It’s one of the more expensive options, but I feel it’s worth it to not have to mess with gel. I’d do injections if I could get them in pharmacies here.
Edit: apply patches twice weekly. I’m on 3x100, but I’d start with 2x100 and adjust from there. I’m on highly effective blockers for reasons, so take that into account.


