AFAIK KIA and Xpeng, but you’ll just have to look it up, I don’t remember the brands.
I Just know that although Tesla is the worst for hiding the manual, they are not entirely alone in this.
In fact the car I bought is a VW ID.4, and one of the reasons is that the handle although electric can work as manual if the power is out.
This was specifically demonstrated in several car reviews of the car.

that’s very specific to tesla,

No Tesla is the worst, but many other brands have copied Tesla in the design of fully electronic door handles.
So much so EU has decided to regulate it, and in China such door handles as the Tesla has are now illegal.

but at the same time electric cars are much more unlikely to catch fire.

This is true

Obviously if it’s true it is not defamation what I wrote was:

This can quickly become an issue of actual defamation.

This can be by context, for instance only mentioning bad aspects or anecdotal evidence.

Yes and that happens all the time. /s

Turns out, when a big tank of gasoline is set on fire, it’s deadly.

That has absolutely zero to do with the car which is not a car but a truck being ICE.

That is not ICE cars but ALL cars. Obviously we already know people die in BEV fires.
If you die in an ICE car fire, the reason is probably that you crashed and are unconscious.

I should have been more specific, I meant die in an ICE car fire, as in caught by the fire. While conscious, and the car isn’t crumbled so it should be relatively easy to get out.

I’m from Denmark but no, it’s pretty rare, but in this case it meant it was a relatively minor fix to get the car going again.

ICE fires get the attention they deserve, the difference between an ICE fire and a BEV fire is in the scale and intensity and the fact that a lithium battery fire is impossible to stop with normal firefighter equipment.

BEV fires are orders of magnitude more dangerous and lethal.
Have you ever heard of anyone dying because their ICE car caught fire? This is an issue especially with Tesla, where the manual handles are hidden, preventing people from getting out quickly enough.
In case of a BEV fire, you only have seconds to exit the car, otherwise you are toast.

PS:
Just in case someone thinks I’m making anti BEV propaganda, I own a VW ID.4 which I am very happy with.

The IAP ruled that these messages violated Italian advertising rules against defamation, misleading commercial communication, and unfair comparative advertising.

Good call by the Italian authorities, I admit the way BYD did it as a trade-in offer is pretty clever, but comparative advertising is near impossible to do legally in EU exactly for the reasons stated. It will almost always be unfair and misleading, as it focus on features that disfavor the competition. This can quickly become an issue of actual defamation.

On another note, Chinese car makers can apparently make deals with EU for lower tariffs if they promise to not sell their cars too cheap. But how does that work when they make attractive trade-in offers?

According to his father, he didn’t use to be a racist fascist, which disappointed his father a lot.
After becoming openly both racist and fascist, his father has expressed how happy he is that Elon finally came around.

So no I don’t think he was always crazy. Selfish and entitled yes, but not crazy like he is now.

Sorry I didn’t specify, I have edited so it is specified that it is January 2026.

It’s still way worse for Tesla than the market in general.

Absolutely, but that is back in the Tesla S days, before Trump was elected the first time.
And Elon Musk has gone more and more insane over the years. And now USA as a country is becoming an enemy, and Tesla stands for everything bad about Trump.

USA becoming an unreliable partner became clear November 2024. And Crystal clear within months of Trump taking the presidency.

Considering Model Y was only 2.8% of sales, then with a 20% bigger drop than the market in general, it would probably have been about 25% higher, speculating that model 3 would add another 1.5% that would be (2.8+1.5) x 1.25 = 5.4% marketshare before this latest drop.
So with a total drop of about 70%, discounting Tesla it would probably be about 67-68%. It wouldn’t for instance be less than 65%.

That won’t cut it, Elon Musk still has control of the board, and he is still the biggest stock holder.

Tesla stock is not valued on being a car company, but valued on insane ideas that some of their other products will be way bigger than Tesla cars, despite those products either don’t work, or has gone almost nowhere for years.

Tesla as a company is almost certainly dead, and will most likely be broken up in a few years, and the stock be worth less than a tenth what it is now.

But in the meantime, Elon Musk continues to do huge damage to democracy with the money he has from Tesla.
If you want to own stock in a company that is actually doing what Tesla is claiming to do, I think Hyundai would be a way better bet, Hyundai owns Boston Dynamics, and their robots actually work.

I absolutely agree they shouldn’t be. There are way to many safety issues with Tesla, and they shouldn’t be legal to sell in their current configuration.

Admittedly EV sales dropped 70% because of changes to the tax benefits.
But still Tesla declined among the other brands, after for the longest time keeping their market share in Norway pretty steady while declining across the rest of Europe.

For comparison to the 83 cars sold by Tesla, VW ID.3 sold 299 cars, and the Tesla model Y was only ranked 6th. That’s how much behind Tesla is now, from its previous leading position.

Congratulation Norway for finally waking up to the fact that Tesla cars are actually pretty bad, with 45% of 4 year old model Y failing the mandatory safety check in Denmark. So you might as well buy a better car, and as a bonus not support Elon Musk fascism.

I can’t unsee that front as a bathroom scale with markings where to put your feet. 🤣

Anyways congratulations to BMW for doing well with EV.

The Xiaomi SU7 was pretty insane when it came out. I think if it was available here at a comparable price to China, it would be pretty much a no brainer for me too.

There are lots of compact EVs on the market like the Renault 5, Huyndai Inster, Citroen C3, Mini Cooper etc.
In the medium sized cars (by European standards) the number of models are massive.
But some people actually have practical use for these slightly bigger cars, personally I’m a big guy, and I feel cramped in small cars, but there is also some who need to pull weight, and for the Volvo it can pull 1800 kg.
It is super nice that these cars are now available as electric cars, because with renewable energy, the pollution is nowhere near as bad as an old gas guzzler.
Personally we can drive our VW ID.4 car 100% from our solar panels almost 9 moths of the year.
It weight over 2 tonnes, but it’s super economic and better for the environment compared to the old car that was about 1400 kg, but was an ICE car.