cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/17869503
I know I’m going against the grain here, I’m obviously no Harris lover, but also I’d prefer to be allowed to continue existing. If that’s controversial in leftist spaces then maybe I don’t want to spend any more time in leftist spaces.
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“I’m voting for the party that doesn’t actively want to kill me”
“Pfft, classic shitlib take”
I’m tired, boss
I’ve literally had someone ask me what makes me think I deserve to live more than Palestinian kids.
This is where we’re at.
They say as if their position is any better for Palestinians either.
Don’t you see, they have absolved themselves of responsibility by making themselves a bystander. Actually pretty smart. When “they” come for us and start looking at the voters rolls these guys will get a pizza party while the rest of us go to gas chambers.
project 2025 was created in 1980 and we’ve already enacted over 75% of it so far.
during that the entire time we managed to thrive despite the considerable impediments and we did it without the democrat’s help. in fact: biden used to be one of our most vocal enemies.
don’t let the propaganda scare you: i was there and lived through it and we did well anyways.
I mostly lurk and prefer to not get involved in politics, but GOOD GOD I’M SO GLAD I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO FEELS THIS WAY. It’s so exhausting.
What sucks is that voting isn’t swearing a blood oath that turns you into a slave of neoliberalism and prevents you from doing direct action: you can do both. Voting isn’t going to save Palestinians (and it’s a bitter pill to swallow, I know), but it’s going to save lots of other vulnerable minorities (who never really asked to be born in the imperial core!), and still provide breathing room for direct action that can help Palestine.
Like… even if you don’t care about the safety of trans people, pragmatically speaking it’s immensely easier to organize as leftists in a neoliberal regime than it is in a fascist regime. Just look at what happened to the KPD when they proclaimed “first Hitler, then it’s our turn”. (Yes, the SPD backstabbed them during Weimar - RIP Rosa Luxemburg - but that pales to the Nazis basically rounding them all up and sending them to the gas chambers!) I don’t want history to repeat. Please don’t let it repeat.
Lmao people acting like how trans people are treated is a fraction of what Palestinians are going though. I’m sure if you went to Gaza you’d be voting third party to end the war at all costs.
Voting isn’t going to end the war. Not voting is also not going to end the war. Stop wasting your time and good will by chastising people for voting strategically. All you’re doing is sowing leftist division.
Telling people in danger that their attempts to save themselves are contemptible is nothing but cynical callousness.
It’s children whining about how life is unfair but instead of actually trying to do something about it now, they’d rather feel smugly superior as they do fuckall and “wait for the revolution” or whatever.
Do I believe positive change is quick or easy? Fuck no. It’s hard work and it takes a ton of us working together. I harbor no illusions that my own singular voice will ever matter on a large scale, and I will happily take up my arms to defend the rights of those whose only crime is existing while lgbtq+/poc/whatever, but I’m gonna vote and campaign and everything I can do in the meantime.
Whether we’re headed for a cliff as a species or not is irrelevant, I don’t feel the need to hit the gas or sit back while mocking the people who are trying to stop the bus.
Yeah, people who see the long list of minorities that would be negatively affected by a Trump presidency and insist that there is no difference between the candidates are telling on themselves: Who gets the presidency would make no difference - for them. And they have no empathy for anybody else.
it’s manipulation at best. we’ve enacted 75% of project 2025 so far since 1981 and we thrived without republican or democratic help. in fact, biden used to me one of our most vocal enemies and ran for president during that time and we’re still here.
Very true. Just, the weird thing is I’m not sure if this comment is intended as pro-Harris-vote or pro-Palestine-boycott.
Who is voting Republican down-ballot over Gaza for this take to function?
I think it’s more the third party voters (which effectively are Republican voters, by taking away Dem votes). And abstainers, which, ditto.
Third party votes and abstainers for the presidency are by no measures ‘taking away’ votes from anyone.
It only can be that way if there are zero Republican voters voting third party or abstaining for any reason. We know this isn’t true. The Democratic Party’s express electoral strategy is to appeal to and attract those voters, ostensibly at a greater return rate than voters they turn off or drive to third parties.
It’s a risky strategy and it failed once before in 2016.
It would be great if she was actually campaigning on helping those in red states and not just saying well that’s their law deal with it
It would be great if people would help build some enthusiasm for Kamala. Trump wants to round up homeless people in camps. Republicans want to remove protections against discrimination in the workplace for trans people so they end up homeless. This is an easy choice. If you care about anyone vote for Kamala, because we will all be worse off under Trump. edit: typo
It would also help if she or the dnc would campaign on protections rather than just saying we’re not trump.
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/why-wont-democrats-kamala-harris-embrace-trans-rights-oped
Libs: Voting is just the start
Also libs: If you dont blindly support Kamala you’re a Russian bot, also how dare you protest it makes me very uncomfortable. Shut up and let us sign this bipartisan legislation with fascists.
You’re trying to explain liberal behavior with logic. That was your first mistake.
“A vote for not Harris is a vote for Trump”, lmao. Absolutely laughable. Just like how Biden is the only viable candidate and a vote for Harris is a vote for Trump, right?
You know what it’s called when you’re not allowed to vote for anyone but one person?
As if Dems who have enabled the Overton ratchet for the past 50 years will give a shit about trans folk. Because clearly the current Dem admin has taken so much action against anti-trans violence and discrimination.
The same Dems who are running to the fascists as fast as possible. The same Dems enthusiastically supporting a literal genocide. The same Dems bragging about filling their cabinet with literal republicans. The same Dems who are receiving endorsements from absolute right wing war hawk neoliberal ghouls and bragging about it.
I guess y’all are just going to prove the leftists were correct again.
