• Digit@lemmy.wtf
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    I’m torn between cause of shitting and pissing and crying because my fave char from DS9 is going to be one of

    • a hateable cop
    • a psycho spy
    • a greedy capitalist
    • … a “terrorist”
    • a genetic mutant
    • a bigot
    • a cult leader
    • a murderous “conservative”
    • a mass murdering megalomaniac
    • a power-hungry narcissist
    • a mischief-maker turned jobsworth
    • … or dax

    … Oh, and there’s Jake[0], Rom, Leeta, Keiko, Molly, Opaka, Shakaar, Tora Ziyal, Cassidy[1], The Nagus, Martok, … and Morn.

    Heh. When I started this post, I was just thinking of those first three, then remembered I kinda like Kira better than Odo, Garak, or Quark.

    [0: Wouldnt be a fave. Except when considering S4E2, The Visitor, with old Jake.]

    [1: Wouldn’t be a fave.]

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      There’s nothing wrong in being a genetic mutant. Also, she is a reformed terrorist.

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        I mean, it kinda is, because he isn’t a mutant in the sense that it is some quirk of nature. He is engineered, designed to be superhuman in many ways. He just lucked out and didnt get the space nietzsche genes. People still should not try to make Übermenschen, not in trek and not IRL either.

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          This is one area where I don’t really agree with the reasoning behind the Star Trek lore. The Prime Directive is another one.

          With genetic engineering, they had one really bad experience, so they toss the baby out with the bath water. Realistically, they needed to make this rule, as well as the Prime Directive, because they thought it made for better storytelling. But the in-universe excuses don’t seem very valid to me.

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          You’re right, in a post-scarcity society we should let people’s genetic advantage be entirely random.

          Your parents or grandparents had shit luck? Congrats you get to needlessly be worse than other people!

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            There is a difference between fixing genetic defects and disabilities and making people smarter better faster stronger than everyone else.

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              So make everybody smarter better faster stronger.

              It’s post-scarcity, what reason is there not to improve the lives of everyone.

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                The same reason they have in the show, once you start with it everyone will eventually have to, or be treated to good old classism which was already gone in trek. Cant compete with 200iq people who can run 50kph and kick through a concrete pillar, if you excuse the hyperboly.

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      This might be why I like this show so much. These characters are problematic kings. This meme was almost about Quark for being the first sentient being who could befriend the asshole fascist goo man.

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      I met the 2nd Dax actor at a convention in 1999. She was big mad during the autograph signing, because her agent told her she’d get money for each autograph, on top of the money they paid her to be part of a special signing event.