That paragraph comes from the 1997 book The Bacta War, the fourth book in the series Star Wars: X-Wing
I find it “funny” when fans of sci fi and fantasy rant about how “back in the day, authors just told stories without any woke agenda” -yada yada yada- meaning such themes weren’t discussed, but when you actually look back, sci fi and fantasy always was full of “woke” themes (mostly because that was the best (and often only) places where such things could be discussed and explored).
Idk, just wanted to share this and thought it might be interesting to someone here.
I read this book 20 years ago, and new exactly where this paragraph came from. My mind is truly like a lint trap.
This reminds me of how Hamill described Star Wars (i.e., the original film) as “effortlessly feminist.” Shit’s been “woke” since 1977, you CHUDs.
Well, other than there not being bras in space and Carrie Fisher confirming she got casting couched…
I believe the reference was to the content, not necessarily the process of its creation.
Sure, but would an anti-slavery work still be anti-slavery if it was produced with slave labor?
Or would it just be superficial posturing for profit?
I think you can certainly argue the point from a utilitarian point of view but that is dangerously close to talking about the ends justifying the means.
You can appreciate art while still criticizing the artist.
You might choose not to give them any money though.
Sure, that’s why I stopped supporting Feminist Icon Harvey Weinstein.
Source on the casting couch claim?
I remembered myself hearing about some interview where she said something similar. Went looking for it and found a Vanity Fair interview from 2006 where she says:
I slept with some nerd. I hope it was George. I took too many drugs to remember.
When asked about how she got cast in Star Wars back in the day. So not enough to say she got directly extorted sex for the role, or just happened to be sleeping around and whoever she slept with went “Damn, she’d be great in this movie.”
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They either forgot because they didn’t think much of it since they weren’t completely consumed by right-wing propaganda, aren’t actual fans of the genre, or simply justify it by saying those characters aren’t human. Either way it’s a dumb argument on their part.
Many saw it as kids and don’t think about it any further.
That too yes
they forgor
All forms of art (whether it’s books, music, film or games), back when they created by actual artists (who seem to generally hold wildly progressive views), will be subversive, thought-provoking, counter-cultural, and a whole other bunch of descriptors that can succinctly be boiled down to ‘woke’ nowadays.
They/them aren’t necessarily plural, though.
You can’t really differentiate there, right? So it doesn’t matter how it’s meant, the one being spoken to can decide.
Or the many being spoken to 😉
maybe… maybe star wars isnt so bad aftr all ~
Star Wars isn’t the issue. The Company behind it is.
yisyis ofcours!
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lol, between trans and cis, I feel like cis people have the low-grade hive mind down better. Trans people are all over the map, doing gender fuckery and rarely agreeing on anything. Meanwhile cis people have somehow organized themselves into sororities and fraternities like good little ants.
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