Deanna Mild Shock is supportive of her friend, but not supportive of her friend’s voyeur grannysexytimes. That’s for the holodeck, shore leave and the Captain’s quarters. But they’re still friends. Be like Deanna.
RIP Chef, fountain of wisdom.
I always wondered how she could fall asleep if that journal was so very exciting.
She got so excited that she brought her excitement to completion.
I guess women aren’t allowed to be sexual? No excusing the other sexist Rick Berman nonsense. But if you really think women reading about, finding pleasure in, and talking about erotic literature with their friends and co-workers isn’t a fairly common, mundane, and totally normal thing to do without any shame, then I really don’t know what to say. This feels like a really creepy thing to take issue with.
You can save the entire ship, cure random space diseases, raise a child alone on a starship faced with existential threats on the daily, but you fuck one ghost and now men only see you as the ghost-fucker.
She’s reading the personal journal of her grandmother about a seductive ghost who lacks boundaries.
The issue isn’t that she’s being sexual. It’s that she was reading about an exciting part of her grandmother’s erotic journal.
So what? You’re awfully proud of your hangups. Everybody’s grandmother had a lover or lovers. Everybody’s grandmother FUCKED. Stop making totally normal life experiences weird and shameful.
There’s a difference between accepting that your grandmother is a human like everyone else and that she had sex, and reading detailed description of it while finding that exciting. And then to tell your coworker about that is a whole nother level
That’s not what happened in the show though.
What actually happened: She read her grandmother’s journal that had surprisingly spicy bits. Went to bed and was raped by a non-corporeal being and deceived into thinking it was a dream. She then tried to rationalize this disturbing dream to her close friend and therapist.
Trying to twist this into something else is just creepy
Yes and it makes some people uncomfortable to know how people behave when they’re not around. Especially as it compares to who they believe they are or who that person behaves like (innocent and kind personality, sexually depraved and violent for example)
That will confuse people.
You may be deliberately hiding those parts of yourself and that means something, just because YOU don’t want it to mean anything likely because you don’t want it to effect you (or perhaps your friends) personally doesn’t mean that the world just works that out for you instead
So unfortunately… You’ve got to get over that. I see this a LOT these days but yes sexual hangups (and associated pride with them) arent exactly a lasting iconoclast of humanity for much longer, probably because of people like yourself that inspired the change (and likely inspired you too)
And while I agree with much of your well placed ideas and appreciate the challenging your doing here, youre deadass wrong about this being simply sexual hangups and social feminism issues
There are longstanding human relevant psychosocial questions and uncomfortable truths to deal with other than just old people and their bullshit (There’s actually a lot of that. Please keep fighting for a just world but include this idea, we really do need the help just need you to know human evolution is not done with you all yet 😁😃)
I made no judgement. I read your rant and you seemed to miss the point. I assumed it was an innocent miss so I was trying to help. I don’t care if you spank it to your mom’s dirty pictures, it don’t make me no nevermind. My hangups are wide and deep, but do not include you beating the shit out of your genitals to everyone in your family.
Again with the toxic shaming. Nobody, except you, said anything about masturbation. Stop being fucking weird.
Wait are you Rick Berman?
My guy, I can tell there’s an argument you really want to have, nobody’s having that argument but you.
Nobody, except you, tried to pretend I didn’t know my grandmother was a whole person with an entire life before I came along. I thought we were just out here wildly jumping to conclusions and insulting each other based on imagined bullshit because someone hurt our feelings by trying to be helpful. If that’s not what we’re doing please let me know and we can shift gears.
So, uh, you talk about such things with your coworkers?
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Speak for yourself.
Don’t pretend we all don’t do this
I’ve never found my grandmother’s erotic journal.
And if I did, I doubt I’d be able to sleep.Too interested in finishing it?
Post-fap nap
Fap 'n nap, or reading Granny’s POV erotica?
My grandma was a flapper but she didn’t keep a diary
