• VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world
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    I still think that, from Q’s perspective, All Good Things takes place immediately after Encounter at Farpoint and his ‘earlier’ appearances were him going back in time to see how exactly Picard grew so much in seven years. I mean, it’s not like the Q are constrained to following linear time.

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            IIRC Trelane was retconned to be a Q, so at least that one would be equal by definition.

            Also, I put them in the meme in roughly what I guessed to be ascending power level (treating Ben Sisko as a full-blown Prophet, just for kicks), but YMMV.

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            Given that Badgey attained omnipresence/omniscience and was still in awe of the Koala says plenty of his fuzzy prowess.

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        TNG took a couple seasons to develop its identity and not just be more of TOS with new actors, and random gods, including Apollo, showing up is something that happened pretty regularly in TOS. The various gods in TOS are ultimately depicted as probably not being real gods and just being aliens with very advanced tech and maybe some weird biology, and there’s some indication that the Q are the same. Like the Prophets, they’re from a not-fully-corporeal reality adjacent to our own, and they have seemingly magical technology that we’re able to use; the Orbs from the Prophets, the Q weapons from the Q.

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          and there’s some indication that the Q are the same

          some indication is an understatement, it is stated outright. although it is fair to ask at what point is the technology so advanced that it stops making sense making the distinction. when you can manipulate spacetime and hide yourself at the moment of big bang, i think you are quite close. if you were a god, what power or skill would you like to have that Q does not have?


          QUINN: But you mustn’t think of us as omnipotent, no matter what the Continuum would like you to believe. You and your ship seem incredibly powerful to lifeforms without your technical expertise. It’s no different with us. We may appear omnipotent to you, but believe me, we’re not.

          voyager - death wish
          https://www.chakoteya.net/Voyager/210.htm

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    “If we all die here, now, you will not be able to gloat. You wanted to frighten us. We’re frightened. You wanted to show us that we were inadequate. For the moment… I grant that. You wanted me to say, ‘I need you’? I need you!”

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        The Borg were already on their way to Earth thanks to a bit of a bootsrap paradox (ST:FC they go back in time to the late 21st century & crash in the Arctic > they’re thawed by United Earth Starfleet > they send a transmission to their hive in the Delta Quadrant taking over a century > the Borg send a Cube > that’s the cube Picard encountered in J-25).

        And the prevailing theory was Q flung the Ent-D there out of benevolence. Get the Federation to start preparing for both the Borg, and by extension the Dominion War. The entire fleet revamp was kicked off because of the disaster at Wolf-359, and most of the new class of ships were commissioned and deployed by the start of the Dominion War

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        Sorry, I should have put a /s on my comment.

        Though, I would enjoy seeing an ensign in Star Trek who believes in the idea like some sort of conspiracy theory. 😆

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      Q was genuinely worried about the Borg. Apparently pushing them in the wrong direction would have caused a mess that even the Continuum wouldn’t be able to clean up.