The Fun Police really misinterpreted this. This is not saying anything about how good or bad LD is. I was just expecting something more like what TAS was to TOS. Other than the fact that TAS episodes were half the length and that the animated nature allowed them to afford to depict more exotic things like underwater scenes and six-limbed bridge crew members, TOS/TAS were mostly the same. They had roughly the same degree of adventure, philosophy, humor, etc. On the other hand, LD targeted a different audience by focusing on qualities that had not been prioritized in any earlier series. I was just disappointed by how different LD is from TAS.
Dude, TAS was set on the flagship of the fleet, LD is set on a B grade tow truck.
They are not the same
I think you’re missing the context of ALL the adult animation shows that came before it, because Lower Decks does something special in that category. LD takes the typical adult animation sitcom and mixes in the optimism and character writing from the best Star Trek shows, and it does this quite well. (By the way, they tone down the Rick and Morty stuff after the first few episodes, so don’t get discouraged if that’s what’s bothering you).
I think you might be in a minority on your dislike of Lower Decks.
Also, violence has always been part of Star Trek and if you don’t like profanity, you are posting in the wrong fucking place.
Also, Patrick Stewart is a huge fan of Beavis and Butthead (or at least used to be), so I’m guessing he doesn’t have much of a problem with violence, profanity or sophomoric humour.
Edit: still is. https://nationalpost.com/entertainment/patrick-stewart-has-an-innate-gravitas-but-who-knew-he-is-such-a-huge-beavis-and-butthead-fan
That’s a fun fact. Now it makes more sense that he also does voice acting on American Dad, I’d have to think he’s okay with all the violence/humor in Seth MacFarlane shows (American Dad, Family Guy, etc.) along with other “adult” animated works.
now we just need him to cameo on the orville… i expect they’d do it so perfectly
Hehe, cool. 😎
I don’t remember where I saw or heard it, but when I was younger I came across an interview with some of the other cast of TNG talking about how Patrick Stewart originally came in this very disciplined classic Shakespearean actor and how he really started loosening up after a couple of years.
Goddamn it would be amazing to talk to Patrick Stewart , but instead of Shakespere or Star Trek, talk about Transmetropolitan and Mike Judge works.
Lower Decks is peak Star Trek. The humor is almost entirely related to previous ST series.
Is OP a Klingon agent sent to ruin our fun?
No one misinterpreted your original post. It was sarcastic and dismissive, so people responded with that same energy.
As to the edit, I think it’s good that the new Trek shows each have such distinct personalities. They won’t all appeal to everyone, but the overall diversity is a strength. Part of what killed Star Trek in the 2000s was that TNG, Voyager, and Enterprise had all stuck to a very consistent approach. After close to twenty years, it was inevitably feeling a bit stale.
It was sarcastic and dismissive
So, yes, you misinterpreted it. Maybe that is how it came off to you, but that was not my intent. Whoops! I tried to find a Lower Decks gif that best portrayed “disappointment” without also portraying anything like “disgust”.
Someone’s funny bone got eaten by Moopsy
Well now I have to check it out
it’s good. treat it like Futurama
Watch the first 5 seasons on repeat, then occasionally go through the rest of the series to remember why you only watch the first five?
7 is good
You need to check it out anyway. Everyone needs to learn about The Koala.
Similarly, Steam has some option about “adult only games” that doesn’t seem to mean “you don’t have to keep asking me my birthday for ‘grim’ games”, i.e. games you have to verify you’re an adult to see, instead it seems to mean “show me porn games”.
This kind of bowdlerised English or whatever it’s called is usually weird and confusing to us non-natives. Like, it’s apparently OK to have the puerile stuff, you just can’t be normal about it?
“Adult” doesn’t imply genital stuff to the rest of us, USA.
You wanted Lower Decks to be more boring? I like a good conference room scene as much as the next Trekkie, but they only had 22 minutes to work with!
i love lower decks but that’s in spite of and not because of the “adult humor.” the jokes that make me laugh- which is most of them!- would be exactly the same if it was an all ages program on Nickelodeon like Prodigy. the good does ultimately outweigh the bad, and signifigantly so, i just think it was a missed opportunity. i was pretty young when i watched TNG and TOS with my parents and probably would’ve gotten a huge kick out of LD
apparently tawney newsome is gonna be writing on the starfleet academy show so that might end up being The Best of Both Worlds (Parts I and II) between all-ages trek and funny trek
I guess the secondary directive of the Federation is to gatekeep having fun?
Animation isn’t for children by default. Only boring, unimaginative people talk that way about animated stories.
Star Trek has always had violence.
Star Trek has often had profanity. In another alien language sure, but we all knew which Klingon words were curses.
Does sophomoric humor graduate to senior humor when it’s subtle enough that you didn’t catch it as a child? Humor is SUPER subjective and VERY sensitive to the current zeitgeist, so comparing humor across a franchise that has been around this long seems a little absurd. Data pushed Crusher into the ocean for a laugh, that seems pretty sophomoric to me. Bones regularly joked about Spock’s racial differences, that also seems pretty crude by today’s standards.
Animation isn’t for children by default.
In fact, early animation was not even thought of to appeal to a particular age group. It was just a fun thing to do with movies that you couldn’t do with live action. And people who did comic strips in newspapers, never intended to be just for kids, were hired to make them.
Careful up there on your high horse
The difference is really just the profanity because even cartoons made for children tend to have violence and toilet humor.
Sorry you can’t enjoy something if you think it’s childish. Your life must be awful.
I’m not much of a sitcom fan. They’re rarely clever or supriseing. They feel like they write themselves in the most obvious way. And because of that they mostly bore me.
All that being said. Lower Decks nothing different.
I binged the whole series in the last month. Just finished the last episode this morning. And almost laguhed for the first time, when ransom said “Engage the core!” I didn’t laugh. But it did get a smile out of me. Now it’s over. And I can forget whatever it was I was talking about.
