That’s why board executives and business are so excited about it
They can finally get rid of McKinsey and blame it on cheaper and faster trendy butthole logo of the month.
Why would they get rid of McKinsey? That would make dinner at the club super awkward!
It’s not my fault
I was just following ordersIt’s just company policyIt’s just a misstep in the algorithm
I’m sorry the computer said layoffs so… Get fucked.
Ai says you’re not a citizen. Deported.
Well, I might get disliked for this opinion, but in some cases it’s perfectly fine for a computer to make a management decision. However, this should also mean that the person in charge of said computer, or the one putting the decision by the computer into actual action, should be the one that gets held responsible. There’s also the thing where it should be questioned how responsible it is to even consider the management decisions of a computer in a specific field. What I’m saying is that there’s no black and white answer here.
A complete one-eighty nowadays…“As a highly paid “business” exec I have no ideas…computer, tell me what to do.”
Executives today:
This means if we put AI somewhere in our decision making, we can no longer be held accountable.
Since when are managers held accountable? Is this new?
You know “accountability”, it’s when an executive fucks up and gets to retire early with a multimillion dollar golden parachute.
That’s the neat thing, you can deny accountability by blaming the computer’s decision
A COMPUTER CAN NEVER BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE
THEREFORE A COMPUTER MUST
NEVERMAKEAMANAGEMENT DECISIONsdeleted by creator
I understand that there is always a fall guy. Even before AI was shoved everywhere, those really responsible for the problems they created were not held accountable and put the blame on a fall guy.
“No networked computers!” Colonial fleet high command standing orders
Cylons hate this little trick.
One of many reasons why I love BSG. As a retro-computing enthusiast, the idea that antique systems are naturally impervious to conventional digital attacks, just felt so validating.
Sure, our navigation system is based on a Commodore-64, but good luck getting it to divulge mission-critical information over bluetooth. Or any information for that matter.
Isn’t that exactly why they do use them for management decisions?
Yup!
“I’m sorry but your contact is terminated because our management software designated your position as redundant and unnecessary. It wasn’t our decision to let you go, but it was our decision to begin using that software and it was our decision to program it to try to fire as many employees as possible, but it’s not our decision and therefore we can’t be held responsible. Goodbye.”
The same argument for cartels. “We didn’t all increase our prices to the exact same amount, we just paid a consulting company to tell us which price we should use. Of course our competitors used the exact same company, but that’s just a coincidence”.
And when computers make all management decisions, let us not forget that managers told them to do so, lest we forget whom to hold accountable.
You know shit only flows downhill right?
I think what they meant is nobody in management cares if someone wants to hold them accountable
Bit it’s a nice picture, yeah
I don’t know, they all sure hate Luigi for some reason.
Probably not fans of Nintendo or something
Managers aren’t being held accountable for their management decisions either.
“Oh, I sacked our entire workforce and sold all the company assets, so the figures will look amazing this month.”
<one month later>
“Oh, the figures are down this month, a golden handshake!? Thank you very much.”
Most industries management fails upward. Definitely true in Pharma.
There are CEOs with a 20 year string of development failures, but they bring “vast experience”.
It depends, though.
There are cases where parts of a struggling company is worth less than the sum of its parts. At that point, the fiscally prudent option is to sell it off, either in one piece or multiple pieces. There are plenty of cases in American corporate history where the best option is to cut losses and leave a market.
That being said, I’m surprised that private equity is still allowed to be a thing given the massive disparity shown in how a lot of financial disparity in how a lot of private equity companies run their companies against their fiduciary responsibilities to their companies’ stockholders and bondholders.
I generally agree.
Imagine however, that a machine objectively makes the better decisions than any person. Should we then still trust the humans decision just to have someone who is accountable?
What is the worth of having someone who is accountable anyway? Isn’t accountability just an incentive for humans to not just fuck things up? It’s also nice for pointing fingers if things go bad - but is there actually any value in that?
Additionally: there is always a person who either made the machine or deployed the machine. IMO the people who deploy a machine and decide that this machine will now be making decisions should be accountable for those actions.
Imagine however, that a machine
That’s hypothetical. In the real world, in the human society, the humans who are part of corporations and receiving profits by making/selling these computers must also bear the responsibility.
Tbf that leads to the problem of:
Company/Individual makes program that is in no way meant for making management decision.
Someone else comes and deploys that program to make management decisions.
The ones that made that program couldn’t stop the ones that deployed it from deploying it.
Even if the maker aimed to make a decision-making program, and marketed it as so. Whoever deployed it is ultimately the responsible for it. As long as the maker doesn’t fake tests or certifications of course, I’m sure that would violate many laws.
The premise is that a computer must never make a management decision. Making a program capable of management decisons already failed. The deployment and use of that program to that end is already built upon that failure.
I believe those who deploy the machines should be responsible in the first place. The corporations who make/sell those machines should be accountable if they deceptively and intentionally program those machines to act maliciously or in somebody else’s interest.
Imagine however, that a machine objectively makes the better decisions than any person.
You can’t know if a decision is good or bad without a person to evaluate it. The situation you’re describing isn’t possible.
the people who deploy a machine […] should be accountable for those actions.
How is this meaningfully different from just having them make the decisions in the first place? Are they too stupid?
Ah, from back when people still had critical thinking faculties in good working order.
ok boomer
That’d be my parents who are dead and consequently not present, but thanks for bringing that up whilst completely stumping me with your eloquent, constructive and incisive counterargument that in no way proves my point.
Back when tech is still dominated by hippies and not fascists.
I have bad news about IBM’s past as regards fascists.
At the time the computers were kinda newfangled and they tolerated some hippies over there in research.
The business part, well, yeah.
This is as good an excuse as any to break out the ol’ IBM corporate songbook
Tech has always been suits at the top, hippies at best an annoying necessity because they know how to actually operate the machine.
“Back in the day”, IBM was all suits the entire way up and down the ladder. They were considered the company for 1960/70s button down dress code.
The hippie types were at MIT hacking on DEC machines.
I think that’s broadly true, but just because you work somewhere as oppressive as IBM doesn’t mean you don’t long to breathe the free air. I like to imagine some of the contributors to the IBM songbook felt trapped in their day job and grabbed at that as the only available creative outlet, and they had their own magnum opus that they were going to publish just as soon as they felt safe enough to take the leap. I can’t find any credits for the songs so maybe they did.
That’s not how you would describe IBM at any point in its existence.
IBM in 1979 was the polar opposite of hippie or liberal. You’re thinking of later, younger outfits, Pirates of Silicon Valley types. IBM was white shirt, black tie, solidly stuck in their ways.
Pirates of Silicon Valley types
Who universally became assholes.
The directors not going to like this
I asked computer if I should read the article, it said no. Am I in an abusive relationship?
That is ridiculous, clearly. I’ll use mainstream search engine, tailor made to my needs, to make sure it cannot happen
I’ve thought about this wrt to AI and work. Every time I sit in a post mortem it’s about human errors and process fixes.
The day a post mortem ends with “well the AI did it so nothing we can do” is the day I look towards… with dread.
